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    <p>I cut my teeth on assembler language on the Univac 418.  Two
      zeroes, plus and minus. No wonder the Thrasher was lost, it was
      used as the onboard computer!</p>
    <p>73 de Nigel, ve3id</p>
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    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/06/16 18:00, Bruce LeGrande
      wrote:<br>
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        Please don't hit me Mr.Moderator...</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Dang Al...  Some of those I was actually trying to
        forget...  ;)<br>
        About the only one you mentioned that I didn't learn to program
        in was RPG, but your 'Ugh!' gives me hope that it might be good
        for my sanity that I missed that one...  lol</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Hmm..  Basic, GW-Basic, MS-Basic, and how many others
        ???<br>
        C, C+, C++, and I seem to remember more nightmarish variants.<br>
        And I lost ALL those reference/coding books in the fire...  :'(<br>
        (all my radios, computers, tools too - very sad about that)<br>
        (even my first CoCo and Silver RS Model-1 Level-2)<br>
        (the Drakes, Hammarlunds, Moto's, TMC's, Swans, Cleggs, and
        MSR's)<br>
        Just getting back into the hobby with these Baofengs.<br>
        Have my eye on the Baofeng 5001 for the BlackRAM.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Does anyone know how to convert Hex' to Binary any
        more ?<br>
        Hi Hi on the years.<br>
        The PDP-11 in the early 80's and the IBM-360 in the mid 70's.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">I saw mention of papertape and punchcards in another
        post.<br>
        I can hardly wait to read that one, and FSM it.<br>
            (FSM = Fold, Spindle, Mutilate)<br>
        <!-- tmjah_g_1299s -->Did punchtape in military as RTTY Op on
        Angry26Delta.<br>
        ROTFLMFAO<br>
        Thanks!</p>
      <p dir="ltr">And YES! I'm getting to be an ol' fart.</p>
      <p dir="ltr">73 4 now!</p>
      <p dir="ltr">Sent from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 6, 2016, at 13:50, Al Jones &lt;<a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:al@aljones.us"
          target="_blank">al@aljones.us</a>&gt; wrote:
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2"
                face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
                  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Laughing at you
                  Bruce., from your list of programming languages, that
                  should date you date about my 70ish (or so). </span></font></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2"
                face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
                  10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">My list looks
                  like: ASM, APL, BASIC (of way too many varieties to
                  count), C, COBOL, FORTRAN, RPG (ugh!), and I'm sure
                  others ...  sure would be nice is things were as
                  simple as they were in the old day ....  &lt;&lt;
                  smile &gt;&gt; </span></font></p>
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                face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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                    <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>
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                    <b><span style="font-weight: bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Bruce
                    LeGrande<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                    Saturday, August 6, 2016 15:17<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                    Chirp-Users List<br>
                    <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                    Re: [chirp_users] Updating Chirp for the UV-82HP</span></font><font
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            <p><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
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                  And I thought v0.4.0 was ancient...  lol<br>
                  I am still receiving the SAME error with v0.4.1<br>
                  I have downloaded chirp-daily-20160802.tar.gz<br>
                  Sitting in '~/.install' directory<br>
                  Next step please ?  &lt;===== </span></font></p>
            <p><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
                  style="font-size:12.0pt">I can't believe this seems
                  like so much of a process.<br>
                  I've set up Cat-5 Ether and wireless networks from<br>
                  Slack v3.2 on up to v7, written and compiled source<br>
                  on various distros, without major problems.<br>
                  Coded in ASM, Fortran, Pascal, CoBOL, BASIC, and
                  others.<br>
                  Can't understand why this isn't flowing better... </span></font></p>
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              <!-- tmjah_g_1299s --><font color="black" size="3"
                face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">But
                  at this point I'm not assuming ANYthing...<br>
                  I'm going to ASK, even is sounds like a silly
                  question.<br>
                  After the download, what is the next step ? </span></font></p>
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                face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Sent
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="3"
                  face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On
                    Aug 4, 2016, at 23:29, Bob Nielsen &lt;<a
                      moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:n7xy@n7xy.net"
                      target="_blank">n7xy@n7xy.net</a>&gt; wrote: </span></font></p>
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                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Unfortunately 0.4.1 is
                      ancient.  Get the latest tarball version at <a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/LATEST/">&lt;http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/LATEST/&gt;</a>.<br>
                      <br>
                      73, Bob N7XY<br>
                      <br>
                      On 8/4/16 11:13 PM, Bruce LeGrande wrote: </span></font></p>
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                <p><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
                      Downloaded: chirp-0.4.1.tar.gz<br>
                      Got v0.4.1 to run.<br>
                      Tried to overlay the daily (0802) and re-run, but
                      got the same errors as before. </span></font></p>
                <p><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">UV-82HP is in the truck,
                      will bring it in and try to reprogram it tomorrow.
                    </span></font></p>
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                      style="font-size:12.0pt">73 4 now<br>
                      <br>
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                      face="Times New Roman"><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt">On Aug 4, 2016, at
                        14:28, W Paul Mills &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:AC0HY@WPMills.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">AC0HY@WPMills.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote: </span></font></p>
                  <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Chirp does not need compiling, just download tarball and unpack. Enter
       </span></font></pre>
                  <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">the directory where unpacked and run ./chirpw
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                  <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">See:
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                  <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">&lt;<a href="http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Running_Under_Linux" moz-do-not-send="true">http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Running_Under_Linux</a>&gt;
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                  <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">On 08/02/2016 08:11 PM, Bruce LeGrande wrote:
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                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Yup...
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                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> I guess I left out the most important fact responsible for the error
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                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> message, which is the OS on the NetBook is Debian Squeeze v6, to which
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                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> doing a major update to is not an option.
        </span></font></pre>
                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Have tried installing the latest version of Chirp under that, but there
        </span></font></pre>
                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> are just too many errors in compile making that not feasible.  And since
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                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> there is no .Deb distribution package available, compiling source is the
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                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> only option.
        </span></font></pre>
                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 
        </span></font></pre>
                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> That was my main reason for becoming interes
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                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> ted in
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                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">a LiveBoot
        </span></font></pre>
                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> application on a USB stick, to bypass all that hassle.
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                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 
        </span></font></pre>
                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> I have managed to create the Ubuntu based TharPuppy stick to boot from,
        </span></font></pre>
                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> so now perhaps I'll be able to install the latest version of Chirp for
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                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Ubuntu.
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                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> And the problem would be solved...
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                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 
        </span></font></pre>
                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> I was thinking that if someone here had built a RAM boot/run image
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                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> specifically for (with) Chirp, it might save me some time.
        </span></font></pre>
                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Shame on me for wanting to save time, and not duplicate efforts done by
        </span></font></pre>
                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> another already...
        </span></font></pre>
                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> 
        </span></font></pre>
                    <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> I'll just schlog along on my own and see how things turn out.
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                <pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">This message was sent to Bob Nielsen at <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:n7xy@n7xy.net">n7xy@n7xy.net</a>
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