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<p>I cut my teeth on assembler language on the Univac 418. Two
zeroes, plus and minus. No wonder the Thrasher was lost, it was
used as the onboard computer!</p>
<p>73 de Nigel, ve3id</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/06/16 18:00, Bruce LeGrande
wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr"><br>
Please don't hit me Mr.Moderator...</p>
<p dir="ltr">Dang Al... Some of those I was actually trying to
forget... ;)<br>
About the only one you mentioned that I didn't learn to program
in was RPG, but your 'Ugh!' gives me hope that it might be good
for my sanity that I missed that one... lol</p>
<p dir="ltr">Hmm.. Basic, GW-Basic, MS-Basic, and how many others
???<br>
C, C+, C++, and I seem to remember more nightmarish variants.<br>
And I lost ALL those reference/coding books in the fire... :'(<br>
(all my radios, computers, tools too - very sad about that)<br>
(even my first CoCo and Silver RS Model-1 Level-2)<br>
(the Drakes, Hammarlunds, Moto's, TMC's, Swans, Cleggs, and
MSR's)<br>
Just getting back into the hobby with these Baofengs.<br>
Have my eye on the Baofeng 5001 for the BlackRAM.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Does anyone know how to convert Hex' to Binary any
more ?<br>
Hi Hi on the years.<br>
The PDP-11 in the early 80's and the IBM-360 in the mid 70's.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I saw mention of papertape and punchcards in another
post.<br>
I can hardly wait to read that one, and FSM it.<br>
(FSM = Fold, Spindle, Mutilate)<br>
<!-- tmjah_g_1299s -->Did punchtape in military as RTTY Op on
Angry26Delta.<br>
ROTFLMFAO<br>
Thanks!</p>
<p dir="ltr">And YES! I'm getting to be an ol' fart.</p>
<p dir="ltr">73 4 now!</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 6, 2016, at 13:50, Al Jones <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:al@aljones.us"
target="_blank">al@aljones.us</a>> wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Laughing at you
Bruce., from your list of programming languages, that
should date you date about my 70ish (or so). </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">My list looks
like: ASM, APL, BASIC (of way too many varieties to
count), C, COBOL, FORTRAN, RPG (ugh!), and I'm sure
others ... sure would be nice is things were as
simple as they were in the old day .... <<
smile >> </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Bruce
LeGrande<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Saturday, August 6, 2016 15:17<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
Chirp-Users List<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [chirp_users] Updating Chirp for the UV-82HP</span></font><font
color="black"><span style="color:windowtext"> </span></font></p>
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<p><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
And I thought v0.4.0 was ancient... lol<br>
I am still receiving the SAME error with v0.4.1<br>
I have downloaded chirp-daily-20160802.tar.gz<br>
Sitting in '~/.install' directory<br>
Next step please ? <===== </span></font></p>
<p><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">I can't believe this seems
like so much of a process.<br>
I've set up Cat-5 Ether and wireless networks from<br>
Slack v3.2 on up to v7, written and compiled source<br>
on various distros, without major problems.<br>
Coded in ASM, Fortran, Pascal, CoBOL, BASIC, and
others.<br>
Can't understand why this isn't flowing better... </span></font></p>
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<!-- tmjah_g_1299s --><font color="black" size="3"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">But
at this point I'm not assuming ANYthing...<br>
I'm going to ASK, even is sounds like a silly
question.<br>
After the download, what is the next step ? </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font color="black" size="3"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Sent
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="3"
face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On
Aug 4, 2016, at 23:29, Bob Nielsen <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:n7xy@n7xy.net"
target="_blank">n7xy@n7xy.net</a>> wrote: </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="3"
face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Unfortunately 0.4.1 is
ancient. Get the latest tarball version at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/LATEST/"><http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/LATEST/></a>.<br>
<br>
73, Bob N7XY<br>
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On 8/4/16 11:13 PM, Bruce LeGrande wrote: </span></font></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt"><br>
Downloaded: chirp-0.4.1.tar.gz<br>
Got v0.4.1 to run.<br>
Tried to overlay the daily (0802) and re-run, but
got the same errors as before. </span></font></p>
<p><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">UV-82HP is in the truck,
will bring it in and try to reprogram it tomorrow.
</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font color="black"
size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">73 4 now<br>
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style="font-size:12.0pt">On Aug 4, 2016, at
14:28, W Paul Mills <<a
href="mailto:AC0HY@WPMills.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">AC0HY@WPMills.com</a>>
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Chirp does not need compiling, just download tarball and unpack. Enter
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">the directory where unpacked and run ./chirpw
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">See:
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"><<a href="http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Running_Under_Linux" moz-do-not-send="true">http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Running_Under_Linux</a>>
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">On 08/02/2016 08:11 PM, Bruce LeGrande wrote:
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Yup...
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> I guess I left out the most important fact responsible for the error
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> message, which is the OS on the NetBook is Debian Squeeze v6, to which
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> doing a major update to is not an option.
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Have tried installing the latest version of Chirp under that, but there
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> are just too many errors in compile making that not feasible. And since
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> there is no .Deb distribution package available, compiling source is the
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> only option.
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> That was my main reason for becoming interes
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> ted in
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">a LiveBoot
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> application on a USB stick, to bypass all that hassle.
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">
</span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> I have managed to create the Ubuntu based TharPuppy stick to boot from,
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> so now perhaps I'll be able to install the latest version of Chirp for
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Ubuntu.
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> And the problem would be solved...
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">
</span></font></pre>
<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> I was thinking that if someone here had built a RAM boot/run image
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> specifically for (with) Chirp, it might save me some time.
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Shame on me for wanting to save time, and not duplicate efforts done by
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> another already...
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<pre><font color="black" size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> I'll just schlog along on my own and see how things turn out.
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