<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>If the other info you want to use is on radios supported by CHIRP, just read those radios and save in CHIRP. Then read the radio you want to program, save the info just in case, then copy and paste from the first radio to the second. Very easy to do. Don't use Excel anymore than you absolutely need to. Do your editing within CHIRP.<br><br><div>Jardy Dawson</div><div>WA7JRD Ham Radio</div><div><br></div><span style="font-family: UICTFontTextStyleBody; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">Message relayed through SETI (Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence, although no terrestrial intelligence has been found yet, either)</span></div><div><br>On Feb 28, 2016, at 18:14, Chris Nordstrom <<a href="mailto:cfnordstrom@gmail.com">cfnordstrom@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><span>Okay -- here's the thing -- to be useful, computers and software should </span><br><span>always make things easier for us humans, not the other way around. I've </span><br><span>been doing this for a long time with various programming applications </span><br><span>(such as RT Systems or FTBasicMMO and others) to program radios and I </span><br><span>have ALWAYS been able to use Excel CSV files and NEVER had as much </span><br><span>trouble with any software as I've had with Chirp--the CSV files just </span><br><span>import and apparently the programming software ignores what it doesn't </span><br><span>like.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Now I am experimenting with Chirp because I did not want to put out </span><br><span>another $45 bucks to RT Systems, that's it -- I'm a cheapskate. </span><br><span>Granted, Chirp is WAY more friendly and useful than the standard Wouxun </span><br><span>programming software.</span><br><span></span><br><span>I already have numerous CSV files with all the repeater data that I need </span><br><span>for various applications, some local, some in cities where I travel and </span><br><span>I wanted to use this, not start from scratch entering data one line at a </span><br><span>time into another programming tool. It's just easier to keep everything </span><br><span>in one format -- essentially a database -- that I can carve up and use </span><br><span>any way I want.</span><br><span></span><br><span>So, it's been a steep learning curve for me, and I did not mean to </span><br><span>ruffle so many feathers, but I think I'm up to speed now and Chirp is </span><br><span>now another tool in the toolbox...so to speak.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Regards, Chris W7CFN</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>On 2/27/2016 9:32 PM, Tom Hayward wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Chris Nordstrom <<a href="mailto:cfnordstrom@gmail.com">cfnordstrom@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Right, well as I've said, when you create generic CSV file from Chirp and go</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>look at it, it still contains all the empty fields and the extra commas at</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the end of the row. So....</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The "extra" commas are a critical, required part of the Chirp CSV format.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>I'm having a hard time understanding why you need Excel in the first</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>place. It sounds like you are a relatively new user of Chirp, yet</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>using third party software to edit Chirp files is arguably one of the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>most advanced things you can do with Chirp. As you've found, it</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>requires understanding the specific details of the file formats and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>any errors that might be introduced by specific third party editors. A</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>lot of effort has been put into the built-in Chirp editor. It supports</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>copy, paste, inserting rows, removing rows, populating safe default</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>values, automatic repeater offsets for various band plans around the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>world, bulk row editing (i.e., setting power level to high on 20</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>channels at once). What is missing from Chirp that drove you to an</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>external editor? I'm not implying there are no valid uses of external</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>editors--indeed, this is one of the benefits of using CSV</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>encoding--but most of the time it just makes things more difficult.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Tom KD7LXL</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>chirp_users mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users">http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>This message was sent to Chris at <a href="mailto:cfnordstrom@gmail.com">cfnordstrom@gmail.com</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com</a></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>chirp_users mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a></span><br><span><a href="http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users">http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users</a></span><br><span>This message was sent to Jardy at <a href="mailto:jardy72@yahoo.com">jardy72@yahoo.com</a></span><br><span>To unsubscribe, send an email to <a href="mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-unsubscribe@intrepid.danplanet.com</a></span><br></div></body></html>