<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>The documentation is deplorable! I was really happy that chirp worked and gives you access to all the settings. &nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jul 26, 2015, at 8:56 AM, eddie broker &lt;<a href="mailto:eddieb@me.com">eddieb@me.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Had 3 of them easily programmed from chirp daily build&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Jul 26, 2015, at 8:45 AM, Jeremy Dieringer &lt;<a href="mailto:jdieringer1028@sbcglobal.net">jdieringer1028@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1437925418293_4230" dir="ltr"><span>I was wondering the same thing. (About the programming mode). But there is practically no info online for this radio and this issue). And nothing in the manual, and nothing that I can find on the on-screen menu.<br><br><br><br><br></span></div>  <br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, July 26, 2015 11:25 AM, Michael Walker &lt;<a href="mailto:va3mw@portcredit.net">va3mw@portcredit.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br> </font> </div>  <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv3232889708"><div><div dir="ltr">I'm still not sure what you mean.&nbsp; You do get to Device Manager via Control Panel and you can only see Com ports in the Device Manager.<div><br clear="none"></div><div>However, we are past that now and it is either the cable or the radio.&nbsp; At this point, maybe someone can help you with the radio you are trying to program. &nbsp;</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Does it have to be forced into a programming mode?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Mike</div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv3232889708yqt6021177767" id="yiv3232889708yqt40469"><div class="yiv3232889708gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv3232889708gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Jeremy Dieringer <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jdieringer1028@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:jdieringer1028@sbcglobal.net">jdieringer1028@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv3232889708gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr"><span>Control panel and device manager are not the same. &nbsp;<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Yes - Chirp has COM1 listed. I still receive error.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I am 100% stumped now. I have closed/re-opened plugged/unplugged/re-plugged.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></span></div><div><div class="yiv3232889708h5">  <br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, July 26, 2015 10:45 AM, Michael Walker &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:va3mw@portcredit.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:va3mw@portcredit.net">va3mw@portcredit.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div>  <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div><div dir="ltr">Jeremy<div><br clear="none"></div><div>I'm not sure what you mean by by "<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;">device manager but not control panel.".&nbsp; Those are usually the same thing.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Loopback echo would work if you connected pins 2 to 3 on a DB9 connector (if you had one).&nbsp; You can ignore it though for the time being.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;">So, if that is the only device, and it is in Windows Control panel, then you will see com 1.&nbsp; Does Chirp see com1 now?</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Mike va3mw</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear="none"></span></div></div><div><br clear="none"><div>On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 10:16 AM, Jeremy Dieringer <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jdieringer1028@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:jdieringer1028@sbcglobal.net">jdieringer1028@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div><span>Thank you - that "clean up" is &nbsp;something I was wondering about as well.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I am now on port 1. I check in device manager but not control panel.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>I used a Com Port" checker, and it says that "This port appears to be a cable without echo loopback"??? Shouldn't it have "echo loopback"?<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I will continue trying, and do the "clean up".<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Thank you</span></div><div><div>  <br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Sunday, July 26, 2015 9:55 AM, Michael Walker &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:va3mw@portcredit.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:va3mw@portcredit.net">va3mw@portcredit.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div>  <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div><div dir="ltr">Hi Jeremy<div><br clear="none"></div><div>One of the key parts is that you have to know 100% which serial port the radio is connected to.&nbsp; Chirp is not able to figure this out on it own.&nbsp; It has to 100% be sure that if the radio is on the USB RS232 adapter that is labeled as Com 14, that you use that port and that port only.&nbsp; Otherwise, you will get the failure you are seeing.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Assuming you are &nbsp;using Windows, can you see Port 14 in Control Panel?&nbsp; If it isn't there, then Chirp won't be able to see it either.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I would recommend that you watch control panel while plugging in and removing the USB adapter you are trying to use.&nbsp; This way you can confirm 100% that it is com 14.&nbsp; It should come and go from control panel.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>You may want to also clean up the previous 13 that you may or may not be using.&nbsp; This procedure works: &nbsp;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://knowledge.digi.com/articles/Knowledge_Base_Article/Removing-unused-COM-Ports-from-Windows">http://knowledge.digi.com/articles/Knowledge_Base_Article/Removing-unused-COM-Ports-from-Windows</a></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Don't bother testing with Com 3, 4 or any other port if that isn't the one the radio is connected to. &nbsp;</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Do you have another computer you can test with?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I hope that helps.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Mike</div></div><div><div><br clear="none"><div>On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 9:17 AM, Jeremy Dieringer <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jdieringer1028@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:jdieringer1028@sbcglobal.net">jdieringer1028@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Ar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