<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">I was unaware of that, thanks for the head's up.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">In the case of the Baofeng, Anytone, and Wouxun batteries that I was able to assess, each of them was obtained direct from the manufacturer. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">Regards,</font></div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">John </font></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Dennis Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:m1dlguk@gmail.com" target="_blank">m1dlguk@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">There are Chinese wholesale vendors who are selling new Baofeng,<br>
Anytone, Wouxon radios (and others) but not with the original<br>
batteries instead they are shipped with counterfeit batteries, and<br>
leads. Some have even padded the cell space with a few bolts glued<br>
down. I don't think that the manufactures are allowing or endorsing<br>
this practice and some are actually accepting this is damaging their<br>
brands.<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
Dennis Smith<br>
M1DLG<br>
</font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On 10 January 2015 at 19:44, John Kellas <<a href="mailto:sales@mparam.com">sales@mparam.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> Just a head's-up about those stated battery capacities.<br>
><br>
> In the world of LED's, flashaholic's have the term 'Chinese Lumens'. There<br>
> also appear to be 'Chinese milliamps'.<br>
><br>
> I have some Baofeng batteries that are model BL-8. They weigh 86g and claim<br>
> 2800 mAh. I should throw them on our analyzer to confirm, but given that<br>
> Wouxun KG-816, and UVD-1P batteries weigh 86g and are claimed at 1700 mAh,<br>
> an Anytone AT-3318 battery that is claimed 1800 mAh weighs 96g, a 1600 mAh<br>
> Xianjing battery for the XJ-928 weighs 93g. Indeed the only 7.4V battery<br>
> case that I've seen that can yield a capacity in the vicinity of 2800 mAh is<br>
> the AA Battery case for a Wouxun 1P, and it needs 5 LiFeS2 lithium primary<br>
> cells to accomplish approx 3000 mAh, and even that will tip the scales at<br>
> 108g. (LiFeS2 weighs 25% less than Li-Co when packed into the same volume,<br>
> and has 3X more energy capacity). I think it's safe to assume that all these<br>
> rechargeable battery packs are using Lithium Cobalt chemistry, and that<br>
> therefore Baofeng is in the habit of overstating their battery capacities.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> John<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Tony <<a href="mailto:ajd@industrynet.net">ajd@industrynet.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Before I wrote that I had done a ton of reading/research about the<br>
>> differences between the BF-F8HP & the BF-F9V2+.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I then purchased three F9’s which I have owned for approximately three<br>
>> weeks.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I just received a BF-F8HP yesterday morning and have had the chance to<br>
>> play with it quite a bit.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> As stated before the radio does come with a larger 2100 Mah battery, the<br>
>> better manual and a better antenna.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> In terms of functionality the radios appear to operate exactly the same<br>
>> however the firmware IS different.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Now the minor differences: (opinion mostly)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The radio looks better.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The radio feels much nicer in the hand. (bigger battery)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> It appears to me that the F8-HP has better quality control.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The three F9’s I purchased came from the seller Foscom via Amazon. All<br>
>> three of them had issues of some sort, none particularly serious but issues<br>
>> none the less. One of them was missing the side plastic piece opposite the<br>
>> PTT. The nameplates have fallen off on all of them and one of the radios<br>
>> will not work with an external microphone.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I honestly think the extra couple bucks for the F8 is worth it and I’ll<br>
>> probably end up with another one.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Though I do like the box the BF-F9 V2+ comes in better.. ;)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Hope that helps, sorry for any misinformation.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -Tony<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br>
>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>] On Behalf Of Kurt<br>
>> Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 3:41 PM<br>
>> To: Discussion of CHIRP<br>
>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Will Chirp work with the Baofeng BF-F9 V2<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Only thing I can say is the BF-F9 V2+ didn't work. The battery release<br>
>> would have needed to be sanded if I would have kept it.<br>
>><br>
>> Since it was not programmable for repeaters, useless to me. There was<br>
>> only a $6.00 price difference so an F8 after this experience was a no<br>
>> brainer for me. I tried multiple resets and used Chirp with the F9 and no<br>
>> dice. An isolated bat unit? Maybe but the F8HP<br>
>><br>
>> turned out better for me. Kurt<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> From: Tony <<a href="mailto:ajd@industrynet.net">ajd@industrynet.net</a>><br>
>> To: 'Discussion of CHIRP' <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>><br>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:26 AM<br>
>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Will Chirp work with the Baofeng BF-F9 V2<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> There is nothing wrong with the BF-F9 V2+ -- That’s all marketing hype<br>
>> from Baofeng. Both work fine with Chirp.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The firmware is up to date on both the F9 and F8.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The only real difference is you get the better owner’s manual and a better<br>
>> antenna with the BF-F8. The batteries that came with my F9’s were 1800<br>
>> Mah. If you have a problem with a tight battery on either the F9 or F8<br>
>> just hold down the release button firmly when inserting/removing the<br>
>> battery.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The fact that you can get the better manual on the ‘Net (miklor) and that<br>
>> you’ll likely replace both stock antennas anyways really makes it a moot<br>
>> point.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Ignore the hype and enjoy either radio.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Tony<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br>
>> [mailto:<a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>] On Behalf Of John Kellas<br>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 10:43 PM<br>
>> To: Kurt; Discussion of CHIRP<br>
>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Will Chirp work with the Baofeng BF-F9 V2<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I checked that link. They say they are in the USA, and that they are a<br>
>> 'Distrubutor'. What is that? Are they to be trusted?<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>><br>
>> John Kellas<br>
>> <a href="tel:403-762-2333" value="+14037622333">403-762-2333</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Kurt <<a href="mailto:ksaves2@sbcglobal.net">ksaves2@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Before you buy an F9, look at this link:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://baofengtech.com/BF-F9v2+" target="_blank">https://baofengtech.com/BF-F9v2+</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I bought one and it wasn't programmable to a repeater period. I tried<br>
>> Chirp and no dice. I sent the radio back and<br>
>><br>
>> thank heavens for the liberal Amazon return policy. I bought an F8HP and<br>
>> am much happier. Worked just fine.<br>
>><br>
>> The F8HP was listed out of stock when I tried to get one originally but<br>
>> had come back up online after my experience with<br>
>><br>
>> the F9. F9 didn't work with Chirp or possibly was dorked by it. Master<br>
>> reset didn't work. The 3800mah pack had to be pried off.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> The BF-F8HP works perfectly with Chirp in spite of the disclaimer. Get an<br>
>> F8HP. Kurt KC9LDH<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> From: Jim Unroe <<a href="mailto:rock.unroe@gmail.com">rock.unroe@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> To: Discussion of CHIRP <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>><br>
>> Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 5:08 AM<br>
>> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Will Chirp work with the Baofeng BF-F9 V2<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 4:43 AM, <<a href="mailto:chaplainblack@centurytel.net">chaplainblack@centurytel.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I am wanting to buy a Baofeng Radio and am looking at the new Baofeng<br>
>> > BF-F9<br>
>> > V2<br>
>> > Does anyone on the list know if CHIRP will work for this radio<br>
>> > Is there anything I would need to do specifically to make it compatable<br>
>> ><br>
>> > One dealer said it should work but I am not sure if that is true or not.<br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> ><br>
>> > thank you all, Ron in WA KA7MUB<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Ron,<br>
>><br>
>> >From the "Supported Radios" list on the CHIRP home page...<br>
>><br>
>> BF-F8HP (in daily builds)<br>
>> Also includes the BF-F9V2+<br>
>> Also includes the GT-3TP<br>
>> Also includes the UV-5R TP<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Yes, it is supported. You must use a daily build.<br>
>><br>
>> Jim KC9HI<br>
>><br>
>><br>
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