<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">Reminder noted, thanks.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:'comic sans ms',sans-serif">Regards,</span><br></div><font face="comic sans ms, sans-serif">John</font></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Jim Unroe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rock.unroe@gmail.com" target="_blank">rock.unroe@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just a reminder, this is a mailing list for the discussion of CHIRP.<br>
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Jim KC9HI<br>
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On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 5:07 PM, John Kellas <<a href="mailto:sales@mparam.com">sales@mparam.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> I was unaware of that, thanks for the head's up.<br>
><br>
> In the case of the Baofeng, Anytone, and Wouxun batteries that I was able to<br>
> assess, each of them was obtained direct from the manufacturer.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> John<br>
><br>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Dennis Smith <<a href="mailto:m1dlguk@gmail.com">m1dlguk@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> There are Chinese wholesale vendors who are selling new Baofeng,<br>
>> Anytone, Wouxon radios (and others) but not with the original<br>
>> batteries instead they are shipped with counterfeit batteries, and<br>
>> leads. Some have even padded the cell space with a few bolts glued<br>
>> down. I don't think that the manufactures are allowing or endorsing<br>
>> this practice and some are actually accepting this is damaging their<br>
>> brands.<br>
>><br>
>> Dennis Smith<br>
>> M1DLG<br>
>><br>
>> On 10 January 2015 at 19:44, John Kellas <<a href="mailto:sales@mparam.com">sales@mparam.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> > Just a head's-up about those stated battery capacities.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > In the world of LED's, flashaholic's have the term 'Chinese Lumens'.<br>
>> > There<br>
>> > also appear to be 'Chinese milliamps'.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I have some Baofeng batteries that are model BL-8. They weigh 86g and<br>
>> > claim<br>
>> > 2800 mAh. I should throw them on our analyzer to confirm, but given that<br>
>> > Wouxun KG-816, and UVD-1P batteries weigh 86g and are claimed at 1700<br>
>> > mAh,<br>
>> > an Anytone AT-3318 battery that is claimed 1800 mAh weighs 96g, a 1600<br>
>> > mAh<br>
>> > Xianjing battery for the XJ-928 weighs 93g. Indeed the only 7.4V battery<br>
>> > case that I've seen that can yield a capacity in the vicinity of 2800<br>
>> > mAh is<br>
>> > the AA Battery case for a Wouxun 1P, and it needs 5 LiFeS2 lithium<br>
>> > primary<br>
>> > cells to accomplish approx 3000 mAh, and even that will tip the scales<br>
>> > at<br>
>> > 108g. (LiFeS2 weighs 25% less than Li-Co when packed into the same<br>
>> > volume,<br>
>> > and has 3X more energy capacity). I think it's safe to assume that all<br>
>> > these<br>
>> > rechargeable battery packs are using Lithium Cobalt chemistry, and that<br>
>> > therefore Baofeng is in the habit of overstating their battery<br>
>> > capacities.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Regards,<br>
>> > John<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Tony <<a href="mailto:ajd@industrynet.net">ajd@industrynet.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Before I wrote that I had done a ton of reading/research about the<br>
>> >> differences between the BF-F8HP & the BF-F9V2+.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I then purchased three F9’s which I have owned for approximately three<br>
>> >> weeks.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I just received a BF-F8HP yesterday morning and have had the chance to<br>
>> >> play with it quite a bit.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> As stated before the radio does come with a larger 2100 Mah battery,<br>
>> >> the<br>
>> >> better manual and a better antenna.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> In terms of functionality the radios appear to operate exactly the same<br>
>> >> however the firmware IS different.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Now the minor differences: (opinion mostly)<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The radio looks better.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The radio feels much nicer in the hand. (bigger battery)<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> It appears to me that the F8-HP has better quality control.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The three F9’s I purchased came from the seller Foscom via Amazon.<br>
>> >> All<br>
>> >> three of them had issues of some sort, none particularly serious but<br>
>> >> issues<br>
>> >> none the less. One of them was missing the side plastic piece<br>
>> >> opposite the<br>
>> >> PTT. The nameplates have fallen off on all of them and one of the<br>
>> >> radios<br>
>> >> will not work with an external microphone.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I honestly think the extra couple bucks for the F8 is worth it and I’ll<br>
>> >> probably end up with another one.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Though I do like the box the BF-F9 V2+ comes in better.. ;)<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hope that helps, sorry for any misinformation.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> -Tony<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> From: <a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br>
>> >> [mailto:<a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>] On Behalf Of Kurt<br>
>> >> Sent: Friday, January 9, 2015 3:41 PM<br>
>> >> To: Discussion of CHIRP<br>
>> >> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Will Chirp work with the Baofeng BF-F9 V2<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Only thing I can say is the BF-F9 V2+ didn't work. The battery release<br>
>> >> would have needed to be sanded if I would have kept it.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Since it was not programmable for repeaters, useless to me. There was<br>
>> >> only a $6.00 price difference so an F8 after this experience was a no<br>
>> >> brainer for me. I tried multiple resets and used Chirp with the F9 and<br>
>> >> no<br>
>> >> dice. An isolated bat unit? Maybe but the F8HP<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> turned out better for me. Kurt<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> From: Tony <<a href="mailto:ajd@industrynet.net">ajd@industrynet.net</a>><br>
>> >> To: 'Discussion of CHIRP' <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>><br>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 8:26 AM<br>
>> >> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Will Chirp work with the Baofeng BF-F9 V2<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> There is nothing wrong with the BF-F9 V2+ -- That’s all marketing hype<br>
>> >> from Baofeng. Both work fine with Chirp.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The firmware is up to date on both the F9 and F8.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The only real difference is you get the better owner’s manual and a<br>
>> >> better<br>
>> >> antenna with the BF-F8. The batteries that came with my F9’s were<br>
>> >> 1800<br>
>> >> Mah. If you have a problem with a tight battery on either the F9 or<br>
>> >> F8<br>
>> >> just hold down the release button firmly when inserting/removing the<br>
>> >> battery.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The fact that you can get the better manual on the ‘Net (miklor) and<br>
>> >> that<br>
>> >> you’ll likely replace both stock antennas anyways really makes it a<br>
>> >> moot<br>
>> >> point.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Ignore the hype and enjoy either radio.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Tony<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> From: <a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a><br>
>> >> [mailto:<a href="mailto:chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users-bounces@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>] On Behalf Of John<br>
>> >> Kellas<br>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2015 10:43 PM<br>
>> >> To: Kurt; Discussion of CHIRP<br>
>> >> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Will Chirp work with the Baofeng BF-F9 V2<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I checked that link. They say they are in the USA, and that they are a<br>
>> >> 'Distrubutor'. What is that? Are they to be trusted?<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Regards,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> John Kellas<br>
>> >> <a href="tel:403-762-2333" value="+14037622333">403-762-2333</a><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Kurt <<a href="mailto:ksaves2@sbcglobal.net">ksaves2@sbcglobal.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Before you buy an F9, look at this link:<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> <a href="https://baofengtech.com/BF-F9v2+" target="_blank">https://baofengtech.com/BF-F9v2+</a><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> I bought one and it wasn't programmable to a repeater period. I tried<br>
>> >> Chirp and no dice. I sent the radio back and<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> thank heavens for the liberal Amazon return policy. I bought an F8HP<br>
>> >> and<br>
>> >> am much happier. Worked just fine.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The F8HP was listed out of stock when I tried to get one originally but<br>
>> >> had come back up online after my experience with<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> the F9. F9 didn't work with Chirp or possibly was dorked by it.<br>
>> >> Master<br>
>> >> reset didn't work. The 3800mah pack had to be pried off.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> The BF-F8HP works perfectly with Chirp in spite of the disclaimer. Get<br>
>> >> an<br>
>> >> F8HP. Kurt KC9LDH<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> From: Jim Unroe <<a href="mailto:rock.unroe@gmail.com">rock.unroe@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> >> To: Discussion of CHIRP <<a href="mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com">chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com</a>><br>
>> >> Sent: Friday, January 2, 2015 5:08 AM<br>
>> >> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Will Chirp work with the Baofeng BF-F9 V2<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 4:43 AM, <<a href="mailto:chaplainblack@centurytel.net">chaplainblack@centurytel.net</a>> wrote:<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > I am wanting to buy a Baofeng Radio and am looking at the new<br>
>> >> > Baofeng<br>
>> >> > BF-F9<br>
>> >> > V2<br>
>> >> > Does anyone on the list know if CHIRP will work for this radio<br>
>> >> > Is there anything I would need to do specifically to make it<br>
>> >> > compatable<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > One dealer said it should work but I am not sure if that is true or<br>
>> >> > not.<br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> ><br>
>> >> > thank you all, Ron in WA KA7MUB<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Hi Ron,<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> >From the "Supported Radios" list on the CHIRP home page...<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> BF-F8HP (in daily builds)<br>
>> >> Also includes the BF-F9V2+<br>
>> >> Also includes the GT-3TP<br>
>> >> Also includes the UV-5R TP<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Yes, it is supported. You must use a daily build.<br>
>> >><br>
>> >> Jim KC9HI<br>
>> >><br>
>> >><br>
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