<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Many thanks for the very thorough answer. I'll work through the info tomorrow, file a reply here</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">
if I have any other questions.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 9:08 PM, Jim Unroe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rock.unroe@gmail.com" target="_blank">rock.unroe@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Pete,<br><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Pete Miller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scmiller40@gmail.com" target="_blank">scmiller40@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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=-=-=</div><div style="font-size:large"><br></div><div style="font-size:large"></div><div><div class=""><div>Below are examples of a repeater directory table, a csv-formatted table for</div>
<div>BaoFeng UV-5RE Plus, and the cloned CHIRP report for the UV-5RE Plus</div><div style="font-size:large"><br></div><div><font style="background-color:rgb(243,243,243)" color="#0000ff"><b>The overall question:</b></font> <br>
<font color="#0000ff">How does the repeater directory terminology fit CHIRP's and </font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255)">the BaoFeng columns?</span></div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small">
</div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div></div><div class=""><div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">Repeater directory columns</font></div><div style="font-size:large"><table style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt" cellspacing="0" align="center" border="0" width="955">
<tbody><tr style="background-color:rgb(255,255,153)"><td width="55"><span style="font-weight:bold"><a style="color:rgb(0,102,153)"><img border="0"></a>FREQ</span></td>
<td width="25"><span style="font-weight:bold">OFS</span></td><td width="30"><span style="font-weight:bold"><a style="color:rgb(0,102,153)"><img border="0"></a>ST</span></td><td width="115">
<span style="font-weight:bold"><a style="color:rgb(0,102,153)"><img border="0"></a>CITY</span></td><td width="65"><span style="font-weight:bold">CALL</span></td><td width="50">
<span style="font-weight:bold"><a style="color:rgb(0,102,153)"><img border="0"></a>MODE</span></td><td colspan="2" style="text-align:center;font-weight:bold;white-space:nowrap" width="75">
CODE<br>IN OUT</td><td width="65"><span style="font-weight:bold">STATUS</span></td><td width="80"><span style="font-weight:bold"><a style="color:rgb(0,102,153)"><img border="0"></a>COUNTY</span></td>
<td width="35"><span style="font-weight:bold">IRLP</span></td><td width="55"><span style="font-weight:bold">ECHO</span></td><td width="186"><span style="font-weight:bold">LINKS/COMMENTS</span></td><td colspan="2" align="right" width="130">
<span style="font-weight:bold">Las</span></td></tr></tbody></table><br></div><div style="font-size:large">=-=</div></div><div><ul><li><font color="#0000ff">Freq</font><font style="font-size:small" size="4"> </font><font>-- transmit frequency of repeater? </font>yes, according to KC5OLO <br>
</li></ul></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div>This is the frequency that you are going to listen to (aka the transmit frequency of the other station). This corresponds to the CHIRP Frequency column.</div><div class="">
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><ul><li><font color="#0000ff">OFS</font><font style="font-size:small" size="4"> -- </font><font>For example, standard offset for 2m is -600 kHz</font><br><i style="font-size:small">What</i> gets entered <i style="font-size:small">where</i> in the BaoFeng CSV and cloned columns? <br>
Maybe only the "-" or "+" or "split" gets entered? Then the offset is just calculated for each band?</li></ul></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>This is used for repeaters. It is used to "offset" the transmit frequency relative to the receive frequency. The offset amount is usually 600 KHz for VHF repeaters and 5 MHz for UHF repeaters.<br>
</div><div>"-" and "+" are used to designate the direction that TX is shifted from RX (lower in frequency and higher in frequency, respectively)<br></div><div>-600 would mean set Duplex = "-" and Offset = "0.600000"<br>
<br></div><div>When you use "Split" you enter the TX frequency directly into the Offset column. In your 146.445 example below, the frequency that your radio needs to transmit on is 1 MHz above the RX frequency.<br>
</div><div>In this case you would set Duplex = "Split" and Offset = "147.445"<br></div><div>But once you press the [Go] button, Duplex will change to "+" and Offset will change to "1.000000" (another way to say the same thing)<br>
</div><div><br></div><div>When you enter a ham repeater frequency such as 146.640000, CHIRP will recognize this as a 2 meter repeater frequency and automatically set Duplex and Offset. <br></div><div class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><ul><li><font color="#0000ff">Mode</font><br>Same as BF-UV5 "Tone Mode", or maybe BF's "Mode" (which is usually FM for 2m band, right?) ?<br>
What is "Tone Mode"?</li></ul></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>I'm not sure what this is but I am sure it has nothing to do with tones. May be something to do with Wideband mode verses Narrowband mode. This is the Mode column in CHIRP which can be set to FM (wide) or NFM (narrow).<br>
</div><div class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><ul><li><font color="#0000ff"><font>Code In and Code Out</font><font style="font-size:small" size="4">--</font></font><br>
</li></ul></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div> This is for the CTCSS tone(s). The first one is the one that is required to access the repeater. The second one is never required and is best to be left out until you understand how CTCSS works. It is the CTCSS tone for receiving and if you set it wrong you will not hear anything.<br>
</div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><ul><li>Here are four examples from the repeater directory</li>
</ul><table style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" cellspacing="0" align="center" border="0" width="955">
<tbody><tr style="background-color:rgb(221,221,221)"><td>146.445</td><td align="center"><font size="1">+1M</font></td><td>CT</td><td>Bridgeport</td><td><a style="color:rgb(0,102,153);font-weight:bold">WA1RJI</a></td>
<td nowrap><font size="1"></font></td><td nowrap><font size="1">77.0/<br>156.7</font></td><td nowrap><font color="RED" size="1">77.0*</font></td><td></td><td>Fairfield</td><td> </td><td> </td><td colspan="2">224.680 (Rocky Hill, CT)</td>
<td align="right"><span style="display:inline"><font size="1">2012/09/09</font></span></td></tr><tr><td>146.475</td><td align="center"><font size="1">+1M</font></td><td>CT</td><td>Norwalk</td>
<td><a style="color:rgb(0,102,153);font-weight:bold">W1NLK</a></td><td nowrap><font size="1"></font></td><td nowrap><font size="1">100.0</font></td><td nowrap><font size="1">100.0</font></td><td></td><td>Fairfield</td><td>
</td><td> </td><td colspan="2"></td><td align="right"><span style="display:inline"><font size="1">2012/09/12</font></span></td></tr><tr style="background-color:rgb(221,221,221)"><td>146.625</td>
<td align="center">- </td><td>CT</td><td>Fairfield</td><td>WB1CQO</td><td nowrap><font size="1"></font></td><td nowrap><font size="1">100.0</font></td><td nowrap><font size="1"></font></td><td></td><td>Fairfield</td><td>
</td>
<td> </td><td colspan="2"></td><td align="right"> </td></tr><tr><td>146.655</td><td align="center">- </td><td>CT</td><td>Stamford</td><td><a style="color:rgb(0,102,153);font-weight:bold">W1EE</a></td><td nowrap><font size="1"></font></td>
<td nowrap><font size="1">100.0</font></td><td nowrap><font size="1"></font></td><td></td><td>Fairfield</td><td> </td><td>158564<br><font size="1">WB1GRB-R</font></td><td colspan="2"></td><td align="right"><span style="display:inline"><font size="1">2013/01/28</font></span></td>
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<font color="#0000ff">+1M</font> is special offset?</div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div> Compared to the standard 600 KHz (0.600 MHz) for VHF or 5.000 MHz for UHF, this is special/odd/non-standard<br>
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<div><font color="#0000ff">146.445</font> : What does 77.0 / 156.7 for Code In mean?</div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><div>77.0 Hz is the CTCSS tone that you must send to access the repeater<br>
</div><div>156.7 Hz is the CTCSS tone that the repeater sends to open your squelch. You do not have to program this tone.<br></div><div class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div><font color="#0000ff">146.445 </font>: What does the red typestyle for Code Out mean? <br><font color="#0000ff">* </font>means 'Gated PL' but I don't know what that means, yet.</div>
</blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><div>It probably means that this CTCSS tone is not transmitted all of the time. It you program this into your radio and the tone is not being transmitted, you will not hear anything. Do not program receive CTCSS tones unless you understand how they work and know why you really need it.<br>
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<font color="#0000ff">What are the units</font> of the 77.0, 100.0, and 156.7 numbers? mHz?</div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><div>Hz. They are considered "sub-audible"<br></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div><ul><li><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-weight:lighter"><font><font color="#0000ff">IRLP</font> -</font></span><span style="font-size:xx-large;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-weight:lighter"> </span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">The Internet Radio Linking Project<br>
I'm not there yet</span></li></ul><ul><li><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><font color="#0000ff">Echo</font> - Refers to </span><span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica">EchoLink</span><font style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Arial,Helvetica"><sup>® ?</sup></font><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">I'm not there yet</span></li></ul></div><div style="font-size:large">=-=<br></div><div><font color="#0000ff">BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns</font><br>
</div><div><font color="#0000ff">- cloned</font> report downloaded from radio</div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>Your best bet here is to program several channels with various CTCSS tone and DTCS code modes and export it. All of the columns are explained in the CHIRP Guide on the <a href="http://miklor.com" target="_blank">miklor.com</a> website. It wouldn't hurt to look at the CHIRP Examples page either.<br>
<br><a href="http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php" target="_blank">http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_CHIRP.php</a><br></div><div><div class="h5"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div></div><div><img src="cid:ii_145423dc4d3b3cbd" alt="Inline image 1"><br>
</div><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div><br></div><div>How do these terms map to the ones in the csv-format below?</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div>csv cloned</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px">
<div>Frequency.......Frequency</div></blockquote></div><div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div>Name...............Name</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div>Tone Mode.......?</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div>
Tone................?Tone</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div>ToneSql...........?</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px">
<div>DTCS Code......Dtcs Code</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div>DTCS Rx Code ?</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px">
<div>DTCS Pol.........Dtcs Polarity</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div>CrossMode.......?</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px">
<div>Duplex..............Duplex</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div>Offset...............Offset</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px">
<div>Mode................?Mode</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div>Power...............? hi or lo, but I haven't found that detail, so far</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div>Skip.................Skip <font size="4"> </font></div></blockquote></div><div style="font-size:large">
=-=</div><div style="font-size:large"><br></div><div style="font-size:large"><br></div><div><font color="#0000ff">BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns </font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">- csv format</font><br></div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:large"><table style="border-collapse:collapse;width:943pt" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="1255">
<tbody><tr style="height:25.5pt" height="34"><td style="height:25.5pt;width:48pt" height="34" width="64">Location</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt" width="64"> |Name</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:50pt" width="67">
|Frequency</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt" width="64">|Duplex</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:35pt" width="46">|Offset</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt" width="64">
|Tone|</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:58pt" width="77">rToneFreq</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:58pt" width="77">|cToneFreq|</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt" width="64">
DtcsCode|</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:59pt" width="78">DtcsPolarity</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt" width="64">|Mode|</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt" width="64">
TStep</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt" width="64">|Skip</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt" width="64">|Comment</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt" width="64">
URCALL</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:53pt" width="70">RPT1CALL</td><td style="border-left-style:none;width:54pt" width="72">RPT2CALL</td><td style="width:48pt" width="64"></td><td style="width:48pt" width="64">
</td></tr></tbody></table></div><div style="font-size:small">What are </div><div style="font-size:small"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div>
rToneFreq</div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div>the RX CTCSS tone <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div><div style="font-size:small"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div>cToneFreq</div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><div>the TX CTCSS tone <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-size:small"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div> </div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px">
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TStep</div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><div>the STEP setting with isn't required for the UV-5R <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div style="font-size:small"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:medium none;padding:0px"><div>Skip</div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><div>a flag to determine if this memory channel is to be skipped ("S") or scanned ("") when scanning.<br>
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<div><br></div><div><div>Why aren't the csv and cloned column headers and content the same?</div>
<div>I do get that the column headers are supposed to guide the process of uploading to the radio,</div><div>so the <i>order</i> of columns can be different. But why not make them the same, anyhow?</div></div></blockquote>
</div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>Because the CSV file is a common format independent upon the Vendor or Model of radio. The Memory Spreadsheet Editor is somewhat customized for the particular radio model being programmed. <br>
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<div><br></div><div>May be a BaoFeng problem: When I try to manually enter info directly into the clone report, I </div><div>can enter Name and Frequency, but clicking on other columns just makes the entire row (such </div>
<div>as, the row for memory location 22) go away; seems to erase the row. I haven't figured out how </div><div>to recover it, but since I haven't uploaded anything, I can of course download a new image.<br>
Suggestions about how to make direct entry into the downloaded, "cloned" report?</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>It sounds like you have just clicked on a row and that isn't good enough. Click in the cell. You will then see it change and you will then know it is ready for input. <br>
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<div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><div style="font-size:large">=-=</div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Jim KC9HI<br></div></div></div>
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