<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Well once again these messages are arriving her out of order but <br>my comment is just give it some time Pete. www.miklor.com isn't<br>a Chirp specific site but will teach you some things about your new radio. <br>After awhile it will all start to fall into place and make more sense. So<br>hang around and be patient. The Baofeng has been around for a good <br>bit of time and you will be familiar enough soon to offer support rather than<br>ask for it. <br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Pete Miller
<scmiller40@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, April 8, 2014 2:57 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [chirp_users] Straightening out mixed terminology<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv1950992651"><div dir="ltr"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">Hi,</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">Acknowledging up front that I'm a rookie, so give me all the guidance you</div>
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">think I need. Although I'm sorely tempted to curse the darkness, the reason </div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">for this mail is to try to light a candle, in case anyone else has some of the </div>
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">same questions.</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br>The challenge is differences in the terminology of repeater directories, CHIRP,</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">
and my new, first radio, a BaoFeng UV-5RE Plus. I've looked for answers</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">in the CHIRP FAQ as well as some web searching. If you're not the right ones</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">
to deal with some or all of these questions, please share your suggestions</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">about other sources.</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">
In advance, thanks.</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">/kc1bkh -- Pete</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">
=-=-=</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">Below are examples of a repeater directory table, a csv-formatted table for</div>
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">BaoFeng UV-5RE Plus, and the cloned CHIRP report for the UV-5RE Plus</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><font style="background-color:rgb(243,243,243);" color="#0000ff"><b>The overall question:</b></font> <br>
<font color="#0000ff">How does the repeater directory terminology fit CHIRP's and </font><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255);">the BaoFeng columns?</span></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:small;"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:small;">
( This link was somewhat helpful, btw > <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://kc5olo.org/downloads/repeater1.pdf">http://kc5olo.org/downloads/repeater1.pdf</a> . )</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:small;"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">Repeater directory columns</font></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><table style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;" cellspacing="0" align="center" border="0" width="955">
<tbody><tr class="yiv1950992651" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,153);"><td width="55"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><a href="" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);"><img border="0"></a>FREQ</span></td>
<td width="25"><span style="font-weight:bold;">OFS</span></td><td width="30"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><a href="" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);"><img border="0"></a>ST</span></td><td width="115">
<span style="font-weight:bold;"><a href="" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);"><img border="0"></a>CITY</span></td><td width="65"><span style="font-weight:bold;">CALL</span></td><td width="50">
<span style="font-weight:bold;"><a href="" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);"><img border="0"></a>MODE</span></td><td colspan="2" style="text-align:center;font-weight:bold;white-space:nowrap;" width="75">
CODE<br>IN OUT</td><td width="65"><span style="font-weight:bold;">STATUS</span></td><td width="80"><span style="font-weight:bold;"><a href="" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);"><img border="0"></a>COUNTY</span></td>
<td width="35"><span style="font-weight:bold;">IRLP</span></td><td width="55"><span style="font-weight:bold;">ECHO</span></td><td width="186"><span style="font-weight:bold;">LINKS/COMMENTS</span></td><td colspan="2" align="right" width="130">
<span style="font-weight:bold;">Las</span></td></tr></tbody></table><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">=-=</div></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><ul><li><font color="#0000ff">Freq</font><font style="font-size:small;" size="4"> </font><font>-- transmit frequency of repeater? </font>yes, according to KC5OLO <br>
</li><li><font color="#0000ff">OFS</font><font style="font-size:small;" size="4"> -- </font><font>For example, standard offset for 2m is -600 kHz</font><br><i style="font-size:small;">What</i> gets entered <i style="font-size:small;">where</i> in the BaoFeng CSV and cloned columns? <br>
Maybe only the "-" or "+" or "split" gets entered? Then the offset is just calculated for each band?</li><li><font color="#0000ff">Mode</font><br>Same as BF-UV5 "Tone Mode", or maybe BF's "Mode" (which is usually FM for 2m band, right?) ?<br>
What is "Tone Mode"?</li><li><font color="#0000ff"><font>Code In and Code Out</font><font style="font-size:small;" size="4">--</font></font><br>Here are four examples from the repeater directory</li></ul><table style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" cellspacing="0" align="center" border="0" width="955">
<tbody><tr class="yiv1950992651" style="background-color:rgb(221,221,221);"><td>146.445</td><td align="center"><font size="1">+1M</font></td><td>CT</td><td>Bridgeport</td><td><a href="" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);font-weight:bold;">WA1RJI</a></td>
<td nowrap=""><font size="1"></font></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1">77.0/<br>156.7</font></td><td nowrap=""><font color="RED" size="1">77.0*</font></td><td></td><td>Fairfield</td><td> </td><td> </td><td colspan="2">224.680 (Rocky Hill, CT)</td>
<td align="right"><span class="yiv1950992651" style="display:inline;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><font size="1">2012/09/09</font></span></td></tr><tr class="yiv1950992651"><td>146.475</td><td align="center"><font size="1">+1M</font></td><td>CT</td><td>Norwalk</td>
<td><a href="" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);font-weight:bold;">W1NLK</a></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1"></font></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1">100.0</font></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1">100.0</font></td><td></td><td>Fairfield</td><td>
</td><td> </td><td colspan="2"></td><td align="right"><span class="yiv1950992651" style="display:inline;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><font size="1">2012/09/12</font></span></td></tr><tr class="yiv1950992651" style="background-color:rgb(221,221,221);"><td>146.625</td>
<td align="center">- </td><td>CT</td><td>Fairfield</td><td>WB1CQO</td><td nowrap=""><font size="1"></font></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1">100.0</font></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1"></font></td><td></td><td>Fairfield</td><td> </td>
<td> </td><td colspan="2"></td><td align="right"> </td></tr><tr class="yiv1950992651"><td>146.655</td><td align="center">- </td><td>CT</td><td>Stamford</td><td><a href="" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(0,102,153);font-weight:bold;">W1EE</a></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1"></font></td>
<td nowrap=""><font size="1">100.0</font></td><td nowrap=""><font size="1"></font></td><td></td><td>Fairfield</td><td> </td><td>158564<br><font size="1">WB1GRB-R</font></td><td colspan="2"></td><td align="right"><span class="yiv1950992651" style="display:inline;color:rgb(0,0,0);"><font size="1">2013/01/28</font></span></td>
</tr></tbody></table></div><blockquote style="font-size:small;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">
<font color="#0000ff">+1M</font> is special offset?</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style="font-size:small;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">146.445</font> : What does 77.0 / 156.7 for Code In mean?</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style="font-size:small;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">146.445 </font>: What does the red typestyle for Code Out mean? <br><font color="#0000ff">* </font>means 'Gated PL' but I don't know what that means, yet.</div>
</blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style="font-size:small;margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">
<font color="#0000ff">What are the units</font> of the 77.0, 100.0, and 156.7 numbers? mHz?</div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><ul><li><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-weight:lighter;"><font><font color="#0000ff">IRLP</font> -</font></span><span style="font-size:xx-large;font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-weight:lighter;"> </span><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">The Internet Radio Linking Project<br>
I'm not there yet</span></li></ul><ul><li><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;"><font color="#0000ff">Echo</font> - Refers to </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);">EchoLink</span><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0);"><sup>® ?</sup></font><br style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;">I'm not there yet</span></li></ul></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">=-=<br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns</font><br>
</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">- cloned</font> report downloaded from radio</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><img alt="Inline image 1"><br>
</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">How do these terms map to the ones in the csv-format below?</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">csv cloned</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">Frequency.......Frequency</div></blockquote></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">Name...............Name</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">Tone Mode.......?</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">
Tone................?Tone</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">ToneSql...........?</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">DTCS Code......Dtcs Code</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">DTCS Rx Code ?</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">DTCS Pol.........Dtcs Polarity</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">CrossMode.......?</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">Duplex..............Duplex</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">Offset...............Offset</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;">
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">Mode................?Mode</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">Power...............? hi or lo, but I haven't found that detail, so far</div>
</blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">Skip.................Skip <font size="4"> </font></div></blockquote></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">
=-=</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns </font></div>
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><font color="#0000ff">- csv format</font><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:small;"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;"><table style="border-collapse:collapse;width:943pt;" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="1255">
<tbody><tr style="height:25.5pt;" height="34"><td class="yiv1950992651" style="height:25.5pt;width:48pt;" height="34" width="64">Location</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;" width="64"> |Name</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:50pt;" width="67">
|Frequency</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;" width="64">|Duplex</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:35pt;" width="46">|Offset</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;" width="64">
|Tone|</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:58pt;" width="77">rToneFreq</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:58pt;" width="77">|cToneFreq|</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;" width="64">
DtcsCode|</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:59pt;" width="78">DtcsPolarity</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;" width="64">|Mode|</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;" width="64">
TStep</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;" width="64">|Skip</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;" width="64">|Comment</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:48pt;" width="64">
URCALL</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:53pt;" width="70">RPT1CALL</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="border-left-style:none;width:54pt;" width="72">RPT2CALL</td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="width:48pt;" width="64"></td><td class="yiv1950992651" style="width:48pt;" width="64">
</td></tr></tbody></table></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:small;">What are </div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:small;"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">
rToneFreq</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">cToneFreq </div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">
TStep</div></blockquote><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 40px;border:none;padding:0px;"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">Skip</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">Why aren't the csv and cloned column headers and content the same?</div>
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">I do get that the column headers are supposed to guide the process of uploading to the radio,</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">so the <i>order</i> of columns can be different. But why not make them the same, anyhow?</div>
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default"><br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">May be a BaoFeng problem: When I try to manually enter info directly into the clone report, I </div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">can enter Name and Frequency, but clicking on other columns just makes the entire row (such </div>
<div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">as, the row for memory location 22) go away; seems to erase the row. I haven't figured out how </div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default">to recover it, but since I haven't uploaded anything, I can of course download a new image.<br>
Suggestions about how to make direct entry into the downloaded, "cloned" report?</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">=-=</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">
<br></div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">Thanks. I've done my best to provide enough context, but if you want any more info,</div><div class="yiv1950992651gmail_default" style="font-size:large;">just ask.</div></div>
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