<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14pt">If you are using Windows XP did it understand what to do with .zip files? I don't<br>think it did. Later on Windows 7 had the native ability to extract zip files. Maybe<br>not multiple zip archives. Could the 7zip offering be for people who don't feel comfortable<br>with downloading an executable installer and have XP but no third part zip extractor<br>like Winzip which is not free. I'm just thinking out loud. And it you download that<br>7zip app if you walk your way through the install carefully you can opt-out of all the<br>extra fluff, tool bars, etc... but I would recommend going directly to 7zip's site. I<br>use it to split up and zip files that are say 20 megabytes and I want 4 megabytes <br>per archive to upload to my Yahoo groups who don't allow a file size over 4 megabytes,
 <br><br><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div>  <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Aubrey Turner &lt;aubrey.c.turner@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:55 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [chirp_users] Problem reported with Windows download?<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv7230088072"><div>
    After reloading the download page a few times, I got the 'green
    download button' that someone reported earlier to appear.&nbsp; It is
    indeed an ad, served by Google, and it points you to a download page
    for what is ostensibly 7Zip (
    </div><div><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.download-21.com/7zip-20627cre/">http://www.download-21.com/7zip-20627cre/</a>).&nbsp;
    This download is most definitely not CHIRP and is not part of the
    Chirp download page.&nbsp; <br clear="none">
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    Of interest, the download, which technically includes 7Zip, also
    includes a bevy of other software, including a variety of toolbars.<br clear="none">
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    Here's what it has to say on that site:<br clear="none">
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    </div><div><span style="color:rgb(51, 51, 51);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;font-size:11px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:14px;text-align:center;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(217, 217, 217);display:inline;float:none;">Clicking this Download button starts DomaIQâ„¢, it
      manages your 7Zip installation. Additional software may be offered
      to you via opt-in ads during the installation process."<br clear="none">
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    So it's kind of unscrupulous on the part of "Zip App" (the sponsor
    of the ad, according to the bottom of the banner), and it could
    trick someone into downloading the "7Zip" utility instead of Chirp.<br clear="none">
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    I don't know how whether an attachment will make it to the list, but
    I've attached a screen shot of the ad, for any who may be interested
    in what it looks like.<br clear="none">
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    <div class="yiv7230088072yqt2080841462" id="yiv7230088072yqt34014"><div class="yiv7230088072moz-cite-prefix">On 11/19/2013 01:44 PM, Jens J. wrote:<br clear="none">
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        <div><span>The ads on the right of the chirp.danplanet.com site
            appear to be google syndicated ads.</span></div>
        <div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:'Courier New', courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>Either
            there was a bad (misleading) ad (totally possible) which you
            would need to report to google, or you are locally
            compromised (dns hijack, malware, etc).</span></div>
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        <div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:16px;font-family:'Courier New', courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><span>I
            still don't think it has anything to do w/ chirp website.</span></div>
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                  November 19, 2013 10:43 AM, Eben Haber
                  <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv7230088072moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:eben@habers.us" target="_blank" href="mailto:eben@habers.us">&lt;eben@habers.us&gt;</a> wrote:<br clear="none">
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              <div class="yiv7230088072y_msg_container">I realized the cause of the
                problem that was reported to me. When I go to the chirp
                site in a browser with no ad-blocker, there is an ad on
                the right in the form of a green button saying "start
                download" which installs malware on Windows machines.<br clear="none">
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                Is there any way for the Chirp site owner to control
                what ads are shown? Or does the site just get ads from
                some ad server? I wouldn't be surprised if others are
                being misdirected by this ad, causing them to go away
                thinking that Chirp is just a malware site.<br clear="none">
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                73,<br clear="none">
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                -Eben / K6EBN<br clear="none">
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