[chirp_users] New chirp-next build

Tue Jan 3 20:52:29 PST 2023

Were you able to read the menus, like the radio menu?
That is alt R.
I could not get it to run.
The install file read to type
./chirpw
It cannot find that file.
I considered the file you ran, but haven't tried it yet.
I was hoping that installing it would have put something in the accessories or other menu.
Glenn
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Guy Schlosser 
To: Discussion of CHIRP ; David Boucha 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2023 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

Even though I didn't get chirp running from the command line, I was able to run it with python3 chirpwx.py while in the source folder. Here's what I found:

Orca is reading menus, and will allow you to open and save files

After opening a known good radio image, Orca announced to me that the memories page had focus, but I was still unable to arrow around and read the various memory values. I was able to export the image to a .csv file, so a good image it definitely was.

That's all I have from the short tinkering I did. Good luck team in 2023.

Thanks,

Guy
On 1/3/23 14:31, David Boucha wrote:

  Hi Glenn, 

  These are the steps I took to install Chirp manually on Ubuntu 22.04

  Steps to install Chirp manually on Linux.                                       

  1. Make sure you have at least Python 3.7 installed.                            
       A. Type "python" in a command line terminal.                               
       B. Some Linux distros require using "python3". If your distro requires this, please type "python3" anywhere in this document that you see "python"
  2. run "pip --version" to see what python version pip is. You may need to run "pip3" if your distro requires you also use "python3".

  3. Open a browser and navigate to https://github.com/kk7ds/chirp                
  4. Click on the green "<> Code" button dropdown.                                
  5. Click on "Download Zip" and save the zip file to your preferred location.    
  6. My file saved as "chirp-master.zip"                                          
  7. Unzip the zip file with the following command:                               
      A. "unzip chirp-master.zip"                                                 
  8. Change into the resulting chirp-master directory:                            
      A. "cd chirp-master"                                                        
  9. Pip install Chirp's dependencies:                                            
      A. "pip install -r requirements.txt                                         
  10. Install Chirp:                                                              
      A. "python setup.py install"                                                
  11. Now you can start chirp by running "chirp" from the command line.           

  Note: On ubuntu 22.04 you might have to install "python3-wxgtk4.0" before the pip install step.

  Let me know if this helps. Orca was able to read me the menu items while I moved around chirp with my arrow keys.

  On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 11:13 AM K0LNY_Glenn <glenn at ervin.email> wrote:

    Hi David,
    Actually, a string of stuff that can be written into a bash script would be great, with the preclusion that the user install git first.
    So yes, it would be appreciated.
    Glenn
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: David Boucha 
    To: Discussion of CHIRP 
    Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2023 11:04 AM
    Subject: Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

    Hey Glenn, 

    I just tested running chirp directly from the git repository by installing the dependencies with "pip3 install -r requirements", then running "chirpwx.py" and orca was able to read everything to me. I'm not an expert on orca. I think the navigation worked, but it did seem to work fine.

    Let me know if you'd like help running from the git repository.

    Best,

    Dave

    On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 8:55 AM K0LNY_Glenn <glenn at ervin.email> wrote:

      Well for accessibility, that is for the visually impaired to use Chirp, they will need a Linux using Python 2X, and an old Chirp that will install into it.
      Personally, I've not ever gotten a package of Chirp to be able to install right from downloading a Linux package, I rely on using apt to get Chirp from a repository.
      I had to follow step by step instruction to get Chirp to install into a newer Linux with Python 3, and I found after all that that flatpak breaks accessibility.
      So rather than putting someone through all that, I'm sure there are folks who would gladly download a big file that they can rite to a drive and boot it up and have Chirp working.
      Glenn
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Ken Hansen 
      To: Discussion of CHIRP 
      Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2023 9:00 AM
      Subject: Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

      Shipping a complete Ubuntu installation in a VM just to have CHIRP pre-installed seems a bit of over-kill. Typically a single line command would install CHIRP, wouldn't it?

      CHIRP is 20-40 megabytes, a full GUI install of Ubuntu is measured in gigabytes.

      Ken, N2VIP

        On Jan 3, 2023, at 06:23, Scott Lopez <scottjl at gmail.com> wrote:

        Be aware of Ubuntu's IPRights Policy, particularity concerning redistribution:

        https://ubuntu.com/legal/intellectual-property-policy

        Yes, installing a 3rd party package (Chirp) and distributing a VM image of it can be considered 'modification'.

        On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 8:33 PM K0LNY_Glenn <glenn at ervin.email> wrote:

          Well if it is the only someone can use Chirp, either for accessibility, or because of operating system, I see nothing wrong with it.
          I may DD my thumb drive with Ubuntu and Chirp on it, if I can find a drive with just that on it, and give a link to anyone who wants it.
          Some of my thumb drives are multiboot, with several operating systems on it, so I'll need to go through a bunch of them to find one that has Ubuntu 18 and Chirp.

          Glenn

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Scott Lopez 
          To: Discussion of CHIRP 
          Sent: Monday, January 02, 2023 7:22 PM
          Subject: Re: [chirp_users] New chirp-next build

          I can't imagine anyone here wants to be responsible for setting up, distributing, and supporting a VM image of what is now outdated and no longer supported software. I know I wouldn't want to be. There's a reason the software is outdated, the best solution is to keep up.

          On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 4:03 PM K0LNY_Glenn <glenn at ervin.email> wrote:

            What would be handy is to have a VM of Ubuntu with the old Chirp already installed, so that can be implemented.
            I am sure I have an old Ubuntu Live on a thumb drive with Chirp on it, but I don't know if that can be made into a VM.
            Glenn

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