[chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 146, Issue 19

zeb doz zardoz123456 at gmail.com
Sun Feb 21 16:33:48 PST 2021


So merging to think about in programing for Chris and such for other OS, do this , go to a colleague , and find where the computer guys hang offer oh a few bucks to see if someone can do it and I bet you there are those that can write that on campus , just a thought 

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>   1. download (danchubbs)
>   2. Kirisun Radio (Bennie Potgieter)
>   3. Re: Kirisun Radio (Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF)
>   4. Re: Kirisun Radio (Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF)
>   5. Re: Kirisun Radio (Bennie Potgieter)
>   6. Recommended radio for adding to chirp (Eric Oyen)
>   7. Re: Recommended radio for adding to chirp (Ernesto Xload)
>   8. Re: Recommended radio for adding to chirp (Ernesto Xload)
>   9. Re: Recommended radio for adding to chirp
>      (Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF)
>  10. Re: Recommended radio for adding to chirp (Chuck Hast)
>  11. Re: Recommended radio for adding to chirp (Eric Oyen)
>  12. Re: Recommended radio for adding to chirp
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> Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 20:11:45 -0500
> From: danchubbs <danchubbs at gmail.com>
> Subject: [chirp_users] download
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> I'm a paid subscription to radio reference and when I try to download from them I get nothing if I download from repeaterbook I get everything I don't know what to do please help thanks?Sent from my Metro By T-Mobile 4G LTE Android Device
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> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 06:54:53 +0200
> From: Bennie Potgieter <potgieterbarends4 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [chirp_users] Kirisun Radio
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> Morning
> 
> Nead assistance..want to program a Kirisun radio,but Chirp doent have the
> make in its program,is there a nother radio model I can use to read and
> program the kirisun?
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> From: "Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel at ngunn.net>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Kirisun Radio
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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> Which model radio?
> 
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>>    On 20/02/2021 23:54 Bennie Potgieter <potgieterbarends4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>    Morning
>> 
>>    Nead assistance..want to program a Kirisun radio,but Chirp doent have the make in its program,is there a nother radio model I can use to read and program the kirisun?
>> 
>>    Thank you
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> Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions   tel +1-937-971-0366
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> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 00:27:42 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel at ngunn.net>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Kirisun Radio
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>,    Bennie
>    Potgieter <potgieterbarends4 at gmail.com>
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> Kirisun radios are all DMR. Chirp doesn't do DMR radios.
> 
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>>    On 20/02/2021 23:54 Bennie Potgieter <potgieterbarends4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>    Morning
>> 
>>    Nead assistance..want to program a Kirisun radio,but Chirp doent have the make in its program,is there a nother radio model I can use to read and program the kirisun?
>> 
>>    Thank you
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> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 07:31:26 +0200
> From: Bennie Potgieter <potgieterbarends4 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Kirisun Radio
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> The kirisun model is PT 260 and PT578.
> 
> Thank you
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>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 07:27 Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel at ngunn.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Which model radio?
>> 
>> On 20/02/2021 23:54 Bennie Potgieter <potgieterbarends4 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Morning
>> 
>> Nead assistance..want to program a Kirisun radio,but Chirp doent have the
>> make in its program,is there a nother radio model I can use to read and
>> program the kirisun?
>> 
>> Thank you
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> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 01:54:23 -0700
> From: Eric Oyen <eric.oyen at icloud.com>
> Subject: [chirp_users] Recommended radio for adding to chirp
> To: chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
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> Hello users and devs.
> 
> I recently acquired some new radios. These are definitely for the prepper set (as I am one besides being a ham).
> 
> The radio is the Retevus H-777 and it?s little brother, the H-777s. Both are programmable using a standard 2 pin kenwood style programming cable. I recently asked for assistance from that company because their in house software had some issues that prevented it working with my screen reader (much like your package which has the same issues btw). However, with a bit of visual assistance, I was able to reprogram these radios for the 70cm ham band. Now, I gave that company the primary web site and asked if they would send over the data and let you guys have a whack at it. Maybe they will and maybe they won?t. If they do, then you know who to thank for it.
> 
> On another matter, I am going to ask this again, are you guys ever going to make your package properly screen reader accessible on either the windows or OS X platforms? I know it is on Linux, but then, I am a techie. However, there are many blind or visually impaired hams out there (as well as others in the GMRS, FRS and other communities) that aren?t and have to depend on outside people to program their equipment. Now, I know all the excuses, including complexity of coding, etc. However, there are code snippets and libraries available that can be incorprated into the primary CHIRP program without too much difficulty. Lord knows, I?ve done enough reading on it. However, I have no experience in coding, so it would be inappropriate to ask me to fork the project just to add this functionality. Now, I will probably hear from more than a few of you stating that I represent a ?niche market?. That may have been true 20 years ago, but not anymore. Our numbers are growing and we are a
> ppearing in more communities. Now, far be it for me to point this out, but seriously, wouldn?t you want to be on board with the Woke Train here, touting your software package as diversity and inclusive compliant? It would certainly make your package more appealing than it already is. Of course, if you don?t want to be inclusive or exercise some action toward diversity, that is your decision. In any case, I thought I would point this out.
> 
> Anyway, I hope that company I wrote to sends you the data to add the H777 and it?s cousin the H777s to you to add it to the supported radios matrix.
> 
> Oh, and if you want to experiment with a set, they can be had for cheap on amazon (about $35 for a pair of the H-777s radios).
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> DE n7zzt Eric
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 11:27:23 +0100
> From: Ernesto Xload <xload.es at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Recommended radio for adding to chirp
> To: Eric Oyen <eric.oyen at icloud.com>,    Discussion of CHIRP
>    <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> Message-ID:
>    <CAEDoHigYHPVFzvQHu4LpewoOtSy46g07PxxsbvHykbKyrB6SbQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> 
> Hello Eric,
> 
> You con program your Retevis H777 and H777s with chirp just selecting
> Baofeng BF-888 radio.
> 
> Chirp is available for Windows and OS X platforms at
> https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Download
> 
> Best regards
> 
> El dom, 21 feb 2021 a las 9:55, Eric Oyen via chirp_users (<
> chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>) escribi?:
> 
>> Hello users and devs.
>> 
>> I recently acquired some new radios. These are definitely for the prepper
>> set (as I am one besides being a ham).
>> 
>> The radio is the Retevus H-777 and it?s little brother, the H-777s. Both
>> are programmable using a standard 2 pin kenwood style programming cable. I
>> recently asked for assistance from that company because their in house
>> software had some issues that prevented it working with my screen reader
>> (much like your package which has the same issues btw). However, with a bit
>> of visual assistance, I was able to reprogram these radios for the 70cm ham
>> band. Now, I gave that company the primary web site and asked if they would
>> send over the data and let you guys have a whack at it. Maybe they will and
>> maybe they won?t. If they do, then you know who to thank for it.
>> 
>> On another matter, I am going to ask this again, are you guys ever going
>> to make your package properly screen reader accessible on either the
>> windows or OS X platforms? I know it is on Linux, but then, I am a techie.
>> However, there are many blind or visually impaired hams out there (as well
>> as others in the GMRS, FRS and other communities) that aren?t and have to
>> depend on outside people to program their equipment. Now, I know all the
>> excuses, including complexity of coding, etc. However, there are code
>> snippets and libraries available that can be incorprated into the primary
>> CHIRP program without too much difficulty. Lord knows, I?ve done enough
>> reading on it. However, I have no experience in coding, so it would be
>> inappropriate to ask me to fork the project just to add this functionality.
>> Now, I will probably hear from more than a few of you stating that I
>> represent a ?niche market?. That may have been true 20 years ago, but not
>> anymore. Our numbers are growing and we are appearing in more communities.
>> Now, far be it for me to point this out, but seriously, wouldn?t you want
>> to be on board with the Woke Train here, touting your software package as
>> diversity and inclusive compliant? It would certainly make your package
>> more appealing than it already is. Of course, if you don?t want to be
>> inclusive or exercise some action toward diversity, that is your decision.
>> In any case, I thought I would point this out.
>> 
>> Anyway, I hope that company I wrote to sends you the data to add the H777
>> and it?s cousin the H777s to you to add it to the supported radios matrix.
>> 
>> Oh, and if you want to experiment with a set, they can be had for cheap on
>> amazon (about $35 for a pair of the H-777s radios).
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> DE n7zzt Eric
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> chirp_users mailing list
>> chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
>> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
>> This message was sent to Ernesto Xload at xload.es at gmail.com
>> To unsubscribe, send an email to
>> chirp_users-unsubscribe at intrepid.danplanet.com
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 12:00:51 +0100
> From: Ernesto Xload <xload.es at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Recommended radio for adding to chirp
> To: Eric Oyen <eric.oyen at icloud.com>,    Discussion of CHIRP
>    <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Unfortunatelly I only use linux, but somebody will help you :)
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> El dom, 21 feb 2021 a las 11:39, Eric Oyen (<eric.oyen at icloud.com>)
> escribi?:
> 
>> Ok, that?s new info. thanks.
>> 
>> However, I have tried Chirp on both Windows and OS X platforms and the
>> program just won?t work with any of the available screen readers on those
>> platforms (the content pane is invisible and even the pull down menus don?t
>> seem to want to be responsive (in windows anyway).
>> 
>> Again, thanks.
>> 
>> DE n7zzt Eric
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 21, 2021, at 3:27 AM, Ernesto Xload <xload.es at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Eric,
>> 
>> You con program your Retevis H777 and H777s with chirp just selecting
>> Baofeng BF-888 radio.
>> 
>> Chirp is available for Windows and OS X platforms at
>> https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Download
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> El dom, 21 feb 2021 a las 9:55, Eric Oyen via chirp_users (<
>> chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>) escribi?:
>> 
>>> Hello users and devs.
>>> 
>>> I recently acquired some new radios. These are definitely for the prepper
>>> set (as I am one besides being a ham).
>>> 
>>> The radio is the Retevus H-777 and it?s little brother, the H-777s. Both
>>> are programmable using a standard 2 pin kenwood style programming cable. I
>>> recently asked for assistance from that company because their in house
>>> software had some issues that prevented it working with my screen reader
>>> (much like your package which has the same issues btw). However, with a bit
>>> of visual assistance, I was able to reprogram these radios for the 70cm ham
>>> band. Now, I gave that company the primary web site and asked if they would
>>> send over the data and let you guys have a whack at it. Maybe they will and
>>> maybe they won?t. If they do, then you know who to thank for it.
>>> 
>>> On another matter, I am going to ask this again, are you guys ever going
>>> to make your package properly screen reader accessible on either the
>>> windows or OS X platforms? I know it is on Linux, but then, I am a techie.
>>> However, there are many blind or visually impaired hams out there (as well
>>> as others in the GMRS, FRS and other communities) that aren?t and have to
>>> depend on outside people to program their equipment. Now, I know all the
>>> excuses, including complexity of coding, etc. However, there are code
>>> snippets and libraries available that can be incorprated into the primary
>>> CHIRP program without too much difficulty. Lord knows, I?ve done enough
>>> reading on it. However, I have no experience in coding, so it would be
>>> inappropriate to ask me to fork the project just to add this functionality.
>>> Now, I will probably hear from more than a few of you stating that I
>>> represent a ?niche market?. That may have been true 20 years ago, but not
>>> anymore. Our numbers are growing and we are appearing in more communities.
>>> Now, far be it for me to point this out, but seriously, wouldn?t you want
>>> to be on board with the Woke Train here, touting your software package as
>>> diversity and inclusive compliant? It would certainly make your package
>>> more appealing than it already is. Of course, if you don?t want to be
>>> inclusive or exercise some action toward diversity, that is your decision.
>>> In any case, I thought I would point this out.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I hope that company I wrote to sends you the data to add the H777
>>> and it?s cousin the H777s to you to add it to the supported radios matrix.
>>> 
>>> Oh, and if you want to experiment with a set, they can be had for cheap
>>> on amazon (about $35 for a pair of the H-777s radios).
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> DE n7zzt Eric
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> chirp_users mailing list
>>> chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
>>> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
>>> This message was sent to Ernesto Xload at xload.es at gmail.com
>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to
>>> chirp_users-unsubscribe at intrepid.danplanet.com
>> 
>> 
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> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 08:53:58 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel at ngunn.net>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Recommended radio for adding to chirp
> To: Eric Oyen <eric.oyen at icloud.com>,    Eric Oyen via chirp_users
>    <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> Message-ID: <1851850480.216453.1613915638122 at email.ionos.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> If Chirp is properly screen reader complient on Linux but not on Windows or MACOS then I suggest you contact Microsoft and Apple and ask them to make their screen readers more complient with the open standard used by your Linux screen reader.
> .
> 
>> On 21/02/2021 03:54 Eric Oyen via chirp_users <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hello users and devs.
>> 
>> I recently acquired some new radios. These are definitely for the prepper set (as I am one besides being a ham).
>> 
>> The radio is the Retevus H-777 and it?s little brother, the H-777s. Both are programmable using a standard 2 pin kenwood style programming cable. I recently asked for assistance from that company because their in house software had some issues that prevented it working with my screen reader (much like your package which has the same issues btw). However, with a bit of visual assistance, I was able to reprogram these radios for the 70cm ham band. Now, I gave that company the primary web site and asked if they would send over the data and let you guys have a whack at it. Maybe they will and maybe they won?t. If they do, then you know who to thank for it.
>> 
>> On another matter, I am going to ask this again, are you guys ever going to make your package properly screen reader accessible on either the windows or OS X platforms? I know it is on Linux, but then, I am a techie. However, there are many blind or visually impaired hams out there (as well as others in the GMRS, FRS and other communities) that aren?t and have to depend on outside people to program their equipment. Now, I know all the excuses, including complexity of coding, etc. However, there are code snippets and libraries available that can be incorprated into the primary CHIRP program without too much difficulty. Lord knows, I?ve done enough reading on it. However, I have no experience in coding, so it would be inappropriate to ask me to fork the project just to add this functionality. Now, I will probably hear from more than a few of you stating that I represent a ?niche market?. That may have been true 20 years ago, but not anymore. Our numbers are growing and we are
>  appearing in more communities. Now, far be it for me to point this out, but seriously, wouldn?t you want to be on board with the Woke Train here, touting your software package as diversity and inclusive compliant? It would certainly make your package more appealing than it already is. Of course, if you don?t want to be inclusive or exercise some action toward diversity, that is your decision. In any case, I thought I would point this out.
>> 
>> Anyway, I hope that company I wrote to sends you the data to add the H777 and it?s cousin the H777s to you to add it to the supported radios matrix.
>> 
>> Oh, and if you want to experiment with a set, they can be had for cheap on amazon (about $35 for a pair of the H-777s radios).
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> DE n7zzt Eric
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> chirp_users mailing list
>> chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
>> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
>> This message was sent to Nigel Gunn, W8IFF at nigel at ngunn.net
>> To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe at intrepid.danplanet.com
> 
> Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366
> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel at ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 10:14:55 -0600
> From: Chuck Hast <kp4djt at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Recommended radio for adding to chirp
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> Message-ID:
>    <CAN9xdP_LNTiWiorjFBdCV+7Zb7XOt1A7p43PgngLTqnrVMKF0g at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I think that this is one that the proprietary folks could take a
> lesson from Open Source, I know several people who use
> Chirp on Linux for the open screen reader interface. I think it
> is time that those two groups stump up and write code that
> will use the open API rather than force the Chirp coders to
> code for their proprietary interfaces. They have enough on
> their plates keeping up with all of the other stuff. Knowing
> that I have vision limited friends who happily use Linux for
> the screen reader interface nulls that whole Chirp should
> meet MS/Apple API's. Sorry but they either need to cut
> bait or get off the dock.
> 
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 7:54 AM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel at ngunn.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> If Chirp is properly screen reader complient on Linux but not on Windows
>> or MACOS then I suggest you contact Microsoft and Apple and ask them to
>> make their screen readers more complient with the open standard used by
>> your Linux screen reader.
>> .
>> 
>>> On 21/02/2021 03:54 Eric Oyen via chirp_users <
>> chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello users and devs.
>>> 
>>> I recently acquired some new radios. These are definitely for the
>> prepper set (as I am one besides being a ham).
>>> 
>>> The radio is the Retevus H-777 and it?s little brother, the H-777s. Both
>> are programmable using a standard 2 pin kenwood style programming cable. I
>> recently asked for assistance from that company because their in house
>> software had some issues that prevented it working with my screen reader
>> (much like your package which has the same issues btw). However, with a bit
>> of visual assistance, I was able to reprogram these radios for the 70cm ham
>> band. Now, I gave that company the primary web site and asked if they would
>> send over the data and let you guys have a whack at it. Maybe they will and
>> maybe they won?t. If they do, then you know who to thank for it.
>>> 
>>> On another matter, I am going to ask this again, are you guys ever going
>> to make your package properly screen reader accessible on either the
>> windows or OS X platforms? I know it is on Linux, but then, I am a techie.
>> However, there are many blind or visually impaired hams out there (as well
>> as others in the GMRS, FRS and other communities) that aren?t and have to
>> depend on outside people to program their equipment. Now, I know all the
>> excuses, including complexity of coding, etc. However, there are code
>> snippets and libraries available that can be incorprated into the primary
>> CHIRP program without too much difficulty. Lord knows, I?ve done enough
>> reading on it. However, I have no experience in coding, so it would be
>> inappropriate to ask me to fork the project just to add this functionality.
>> Now, I will probably hear from more than a few of you stating that I
>> represent a ?niche market?. That may have been true 20 years ago, but not
>> anymore. Our numbers are growing and we are appearing in more communities.
>> Now, far be it for me to point this out, but seriously, wouldn?t you want
>> to be on board with the Woke Train here, touting your software package as
>> diversity and inclusive compliant? It would certainly make your package
>> more appealing than it already is. Of course, if you don?t want to be
>> inclusive or exercise some action toward diversity, that is your decision.
>> In any case, I thought I would point this out.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I hope that company I wrote to sends you the data to add the
>> H777 and it?s cousin the H777s to you to add it to the supported radios
>> matrix.
>>> 
>>> Oh, and if you want to experiment with a set, they can be had for cheap
>> on amazon (about $35 for a pair of the H-777s radios).
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> DE n7zzt Eric
>>> 
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>> 
>> Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366
>> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel at ngunn.net www
>> http://www.ngunn.net
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> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 11:11:03 -0700
> From: Eric Oyen <eric.oyen at icloud.com>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Recommended radio for adding to chirp
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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> Actually, that is not a bad idea all things considered. An open API that is standard regardless of OS would make life a lot easier for both the coders and users. Unfortunately, try convincing both Apple and Microsoft of this. Perhaps something like the UEFI consortium might work to get this to happen.
> 
> DE n7zzt Eric
> 
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2021, at 9:14 AM, Chuck Hast <kp4djt at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I think that this is one that the proprietary folks could take a
>> lesson from Open Source, I know several people who use
>> Chirp on Linux for the open screen reader interface. I think it
>> is time that those two groups stump up and write code that
>> will use the open API rather than force the Chirp coders to
>> code for their proprietary interfaces. They have enough on
>> their plates keeping up with all of the other stuff. Knowing 
>> that I have vision limited friends who happily use Linux for
>> the screen reader interface nulls that whole Chirp should
>> meet MS/Apple API's. Sorry but they either need to cut
>> bait or get off the dock. 
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 7:54 AM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel at ngunn.net <mailto:nigel at ngunn.net>> wrote:
>> If Chirp is properly screen reader complient on Linux but not on Windows or MACOS then I suggest you contact Microsoft and Apple and ask them to make their screen readers more complient with the open standard used by your Linux screen reader.
>> .
>> 
>>>> On 21/02/2021 03:54 Eric Oyen via chirp_users <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello users and devs.
>>> 
>>> I recently acquired some new radios. These are definitely for the prepper set (as I am one besides being a ham).
>>> 
>>> The radio is the Retevus H-777 and it?s little brother, the H-777s. Both are programmable using a standard 2 pin kenwood style programming cable. I recently asked for assistance from that company because their in house software had some issues that prevented it working with my screen reader (much like your package which has the same issues btw). However, with a bit of visual assistance, I was able to reprogram these radios for the 70cm ham band. Now, I gave that company the primary web site and asked if they would send over the data and let you guys have a whack at it. Maybe they will and maybe they won?t. If they do, then you know who to thank for it.
>>> 
>>> On another matter, I am going to ask this again, are you guys ever going to make your package properly screen reader accessible on either the windows or OS X platforms? I know it is on Linux, but then, I am a techie. However, there are many blind or visually impaired hams out there (as well as others in the GMRS, FRS and other communities) that aren?t and have to depend on outside people to program their equipment. Now, I know all the excuses, including complexity of coding, etc. However, there are code snippets and libraries available that can be incorprated into the primary CHIRP program without too much difficulty. Lord knows, I?ve done enough reading on it. However, I have no experience in coding, so it would be inappropriate to ask me to fork the project just to add this functionality. Now, I will probably hear from more than a few of you stating that I represent a ?niche market?. That may have been true 20 years ago, but not anymore. Our numbers are growing and we a
> re appearing in more communities. Now, far be it for me to point this out, but seriously, wouldn?t you want to be on board with the Woke Train here, touting your software package as diversity and inclusive compliant? It would certainly make your package more appealing than it already is. Of course, if you don?t want to be inclusive or exercise some action toward diversity, that is your decision. In any case, I thought I would point this out.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I hope that company I wrote to sends you the data to add the H777 and it?s cousin the H777s to you to add it to the supported radios matrix.
>>> 
>>> Oh, and if you want to experiment with a set, they can be had for cheap on amazon (about $35 for a pair of the H-777s radios).
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> DE n7zzt Eric
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> chirp_users mailing list
>>> chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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>>> This message was sent to Nigel Gunn, W8IFF at nigel at ngunn.net <mailto:nigel at ngunn.net>
>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe at intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe at intrepid.danplanet.com>
>> 
>> Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366
>> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel at ngunn.net <mailto:nigel at ngunn.net> www http://www.ngunn.net <http://www.ngunn.net/>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users <http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users>
>> This message was sent to Chuck Hast at kp4djt at gmail.com <mailto:kp4djt at gmail.com>
>> To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe at intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe at intrepid.danplanet.com>
>> 
>> -- 
>> Chirp + Editcp + MD380Tools on Linux
>> Celestial!!!
>> Chuck -- KP4DJT
>> _______________________________________________
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>> chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
>> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
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> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2021 13:22:20 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel at ngunn.net>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Recommended radio for adding to chirp
> To: Eric Oyen <eric.oyen at icloud.com>,    Eric Oyen via chirp_users
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> Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OASIS_(organization) did it with open document formats. I think Microsoft joined that one with the 2007 issue of MS Office so therer's still hope.
> 
>>    On 21/02/2021 13:11 Eric Oyen via chirp_users <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>    Actually, that is not a bad idea all things considered. An open API that is standard regardless of OS would make life a lot easier for both the coders and users. Unfortunately, try convincing both Apple and Microsoft of this. Perhaps something like the UEFI consortium might work to get this to happen.
>> 
>>    DE n7zzt Eric
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>>>        On Feb 21, 2021, at 9:14 AM, Chuck Hast <kp4djt at gmail.com mailto:kp4djt at gmail.com > wrote:
>>>        I think that this is one that the proprietary folks could take a
>>>        lesson from Open Source, I know several people who use
>>>        Chirp on Linux for the open screen reader interface. I think it
>>>        is time that those two groups stump up and write code that
>>>        will use the open API rather than force the Chirp coders to
>>>        code for their proprietary interfaces. They have enough on
>>>        their plates keeping up with all of the other stuff. Knowing 
>>>        that I have vision limited friends who happily use Linux for
>>>        the screen reader interface nulls that whole Chirp should
>>>        meet MS/Apple API's. Sorry but they either need to cut
>>>        bait or get off the dock. 
>>> 
>>>>        On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 7:54 AM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel at ngunn.net mailto:nigel at ngunn.net > wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>> If Chirp is properly screen reader complient on Linux but not on Windows or MACOS then I suggest you contact Microsoft and Apple and ask them to make their screen readers more complient with the open standard used by your Linux screen reader.
>>>>            .
>>>> 
>>>>> On 21/02/2021 03:54 Eric Oyen via chirp_users <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com mailto:chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com > wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello users and devs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I recently acquired some new radios. These are definitely for the prepper set (as I am one besides being a ham).
>>>>> 
>>>>> The radio is the Retevus H-777 and it?s little brother, the H-777s. Both are programmable using a standard 2 pin kenwood style programming cable. I recently asked for assistance from that company because their in house software had some issues that prevented it working with my screen reader (much like your package which has the same issues btw). However, with a bit of visual assistance, I was able to reprogram these radios for the 70cm ham band. Now, I gave that company the primary web site and asked if they would send over the data and let you guys have a whack at it. Maybe they will and maybe they won?t. If they do, then you know who to thank for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On another matter, I am going to ask this again, are you guys ever going to make your package properly screen reader accessible on either the windows or OS X platforms? I know it is on Linux, but then, I am a techie. However, there are many blind or visually impaired hams out there (as well as others in the GMRS, FRS and other communities) that aren?t and have to depend on outside people to program their equipment. Now, I know all the excuses, including complexity of coding, etc. However, there are code snippets and libraries available that can be incorprated into the primary CHIRP program without too much difficulty. Lord knows, I?ve done enough reading on it. However, I have no experience in coding, so it would be inappropriate to ask me to fork the project just to add this functionality. Now, I will probably hear from more than a few of you stating that I represent a ?niche market?. That may have been true 20 years ago, but not anymore. Our numbers are 
> growing and we are appearing in more communities. Now, far be it for me to point this out, but seriously, wouldn?t you want to be on board with the Woke Train here, touting your software package as diversity and inclusive compliant? It would certainly make your package more appealing than it already is. Of course, if you don?t want to be inclusive or exercise some action toward diversity, that is your decision. In any case, I thought I would point this out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyway, I hope that company I wrote to sends you the data to add the H777 and it?s cousin the H777s to you to add it to the supported radios matrix.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oh, and if you want to experiment with a set, they can be had for cheap on amazon (about $35 for a pair of the H-777s radios).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> 
>>>>> DE n7zzt Eric
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> chirp_users mailing list
>>>>> chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com mailto:chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
>>>>> http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
>>>>> This message was sent to Nigel Gunn, W8IFF at nigel at ngunn.net mailto:nigel at ngunn.net
>>>>> To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe at intrepid.danplanet.com mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe at intrepid.danplanet.com
>>>> 
>>>>            Nigel A. Gunn, ///shoulders.outwards.resolutions tel +1-937-971-0366
>>>>            Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF and GMRS WRBV701, e-mail nigel at ngunn.net mailto:nigel at ngunn.net wwwhttp://www.ngunn.net/
>>>>            _______________________________________________
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>>>>            http://intrepid.danplanet.com/mailman/listinfo/chirp_users
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>>>>            To unsubscribe, send an email to chirp_users-unsubscribe at intrepid.danplanet.com mailto:chirp_users-unsubscribe at intrepid.danplanet.com
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>> 
>>>        --
>>>        Chirp + Editcp + MD380Tools on Linux
>>>        Celestial!!!
>>>        Chuck -- KP4DJT
>>>        _______________________________________________
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>>> 
>>>> 
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