[chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 139, Issue 3

Mark Thompson bigpimp347 at gmail.com
Sat Jul 11 13:43:58 PDT 2020


not sure how to reply to messages, not seen a forum like this before..

on in my Chirp i select radio BF-A58S
is 'settings' and then 'other settings'
i have
VHF lower limit 136Mhz
upper limit 174Mhz
UHF lower limit 400mhz
upper limit 520Mhz

i can't see anything which mentions 200Mhz to 260Mhz ??
hence why i'm unsure that if i start adding 220Mhz channels and such like
that when i try to upload it'll either deny them
or brick the radio..
yes i have half a dozen already programmed in by the factory,
but also all the 220 channels and a couple of UHF have a \ next to them
where it's meant to say channel name..



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> From: Mark Thompson <bigpimp347 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [chirp_users] BF-A58S Tri-band and Chirp
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> Just bought a Tri-band version of the A58S,
> and although Chirp downloads from radio in either A58, A58S or even
> UV-5R-XYZmk3Turbo whatever it is.
> when i download the radios stock configuration i see VHF and UHF
> frequencies including 220Mhz.
> but Chirp only says this radio is VHF and UHF and not 220Mhz.
> so when i download all seems good.
> configuration only shows as dual band.
>
> my issue is although i can ad 220Mhz frequencies to the memories, i
> dare'nt upload in case the radio goes to VHF and UHF only and i lose the
> 220Mhz.
> will it lose 220Mhz if i upload as a dual band and not tri-band ??
> wil the tri-band frequencies install although Chirp say's it's dual band ??
>
> any one ??
> thanks..
>
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> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 10:30:22 -0400
> From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] BF-A58S Tri-band and Chirp
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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> On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 8:22 AM Mark Thompson <bigpimp347 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Just bought a Tri-band version of the A58S,
> > and although Chirp downloads from radio in either A58, A58S or even
> UV-5R-XYZmk3Turbo whatever it is.
> > when i download the radios stock configuration i see VHF and UHF
> frequencies including 220Mhz.
>
> Baofeng used to have different firmware series and "magic" strings
> (the string recognized by the radio to initiate the cloning process)
> for the various radio models. CHIRP could use these differences to
> keep the radio models separated by their features and capabilities.
> Back in 2014 when they began introducing the HN5RV style firmware, the
> got away from this. Nearly any newly introduced model uses the same
> HN5RV firmware version and "magic" string. Unfortunately, this makes
> it impossible for CHIRP to differentiate between many models that it
> has never seen before. This also puts the burden of the user to select
> the correct model to get the correct support for the radios features.
>
> UV-5R like radios: 2 power levels & 2 bands
> BF-F8HP like radios: 3 power levels & 2 bands
> UV-5RX3 like radios: 2 power levels & 3 bands
> UV-82 like radios: 2 power levels & 2 bands
> UV-82HP like radios: 3 power levels & 2 bands
> UV-82X3 like radios: 2 power levels & 3 bands
> BF-A58 like radios: 2 power levels & 2 bands
> BF-A58S like radios: 2 power levels & 3 bands
>
> For example...
> If BF-A58 is selected, the CHIRP supported bands are
> 130.000000-180.000000 MHz
> 400.000000-521.000000 MHz
>
> If BF-A58S is selected, the CHIRP supported bands are
> 130.000000-180.000000 MHz
> 200.000000-260.000000 MHz
> 400.000000-521.000000 MHz
>
> > but Chirp only says this radio is VHF and UHF and not 220Mhz.
>
> CHIRP doesn't "say" how many bands your radio has. I assume you are
> referring to the band limits shown on the Settings -> Other Settings
> menu panel. CHIRP shows exactly what the radio provides to it. A band
> with the lower limit set to 130 and an upper limit set to 260.
> [130]
> [260]
> And a second band with the lower band limit set to 400 and the upper
> band limit set to 520.
> [400]
> [520]
>
> > so when i download all seems good.
>
> Because all is good.
>
> > configuration only shows as dual band.
>
> No it doesn't. It shows the band limits how they are configured in the
> radio's memory. And for clarification, the band limits setting only
> affects what frequencies can be entered via the keypad into the VFO.
> It has absolutely nothing to do with what frequencies that can be
> programmed into the channels (unless you are programming channels from
> the radio's keypad).
>
> >
> > my issue is although i can ad 220Mhz frequencies to the memories, i
> dare'nt upload in case the radio goes to VHF and UHF only and i lose the
> 220Mhz.
> > will it lose 220Mhz if i upload as a dual band and not tri-band ??
>
> There is no way for CHIRP to change your radio from a 3 band model to
> a 2 model. As long as you don't change the band limits as shown above,
> your radio will always cover the factory frequencies. If you are that
> worried about it, use the factory programming software.
>
> > wil the tri-band frequencies install although Chirp say's it's dual band
> ??
>
> As long as you choose a model that supports 3 bands (BF-A58S or
> UV-82III), CHIRP will support 3 bands.
>
> >
> > any one ??
> > thanks..
> >
>
> Jim KC9HI
>
>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 07:43:22 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Build System <donotreply at danplanet.com>
> Subject: [chirp_users] New Daily Build
> To: chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
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>
> Greetings,
>
> A new daily build of CHIRP is available.  This includes changes made
> directly to the tree yesterday, and may include additional features,
> bug fixes, and/or bugs.  If you are interested in trying it, grab it
> from the following location:
>
>   http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com/chirp_daily/daily-20200711
>
>
> A list of the changes included in this build (since the last daily)
> follows:
>
> Changes for Build #626
> [Dan Smith <dsmith at danplanet.com>] Refine the fix for anytone778uv with
> no (or incorrect) memory loaded
>
> The test framework will load the driver with random garbage if no test
> image is present to probe sub-devices. This can cause spurious failures
> of the band probing, so make it a little more tolerant.
>
> Related to #7947
>
> [Iain White <ig99ig at yahoo.com>] Change FTM7250D driver class
> FTM7250Radio  _model = "AH52N" to "AH75M"   Fixes #6525
>
>
> Changes for Build #627
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2020 11:24:17 -0400
> From: Christopher Knowles <cknowles at tiac.net>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] BF-A58S Tri-band and Chirp
> To: chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
> Message-ID: <38b0268d-4c82-103f-b5e3-f794d0e7916e at tiac.net>
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>
> Brilliant answer, Jim.? That is the most comprehensive and
> comprehensible response to a question I have ever read in this forum.?
> Chris Knowles, N1CAK
>
> On 7/11/2020 10:30 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 8:22 AM Mark Thompson <bigpimp347 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Just bought a Tri-band version of the A58S,
> >> and although Chirp downloads from radio in either A58, A58S or even
> UV-5R-XYZmk3Turbo whatever it is.
> >> when i download the radios stock configuration i see VHF and UHF
> frequencies including 220Mhz.
> > Baofeng used to have different firmware series and "magic" strings
> > (the string recognized by the radio to initiate the cloning process)
> > for the various radio models. CHIRP could use these differences to
> > keep the radio models separated by their features and capabilities.
> > Back in 2014 when they began introducing the HN5RV style firmware, the
> > got away from this. Nearly any newly introduced model uses the same
> > HN5RV firmware version and "magic" string. Unfortunately, this makes
> > it impossible for CHIRP to differentiate between many models that it
> > has never seen before. This also puts the burden of the user to select
> > the correct model to get the correct support for the radios features.
> >
> > UV-5R like radios: 2 power levels & 2 bands
> > BF-F8HP like radios: 3 power levels & 2 bands
> > UV-5RX3 like radios: 2 power levels & 3 bands
> > UV-82 like radios: 2 power levels & 2 bands
> > UV-82HP like radios: 3 power levels & 2 bands
> > UV-82X3 like radios: 2 power levels & 3 bands
> > BF-A58 like radios: 2 power levels & 2 bands
> > BF-A58S like radios: 2 power levels & 3 bands
> >
> > For example...
> > If BF-A58 is selected, the CHIRP supported bands are
> > 130.000000-180.000000 MHz
> > 400.000000-521.000000 MHz
> >
> > If BF-A58S is selected, the CHIRP supported bands are
> > 130.000000-180.000000 MHz
> > 200.000000-260.000000 MHz
> > 400.000000-521.000000 MHz
> >
> >> but Chirp only says this radio is VHF and UHF and not 220Mhz.
> > CHIRP doesn't "say" how many bands your radio has. I assume you are
> > referring to the band limits shown on the Settings -> Other Settings
> > menu panel. CHIRP shows exactly what the radio provides to it. A band
> > with the lower limit set to 130 and an upper limit set to 260.
> > [130]
> > [260]
> > And a second band with the lower band limit set to 400 and the upper
> > band limit set to 520.
> > [400]
> > [520]
> >
> >> so when i download all seems good.
> > Because all is good.
> >
> >> configuration only shows as dual band.
> > No it doesn't. It shows the band limits how they are configured in the
> > radio's memory. And for clarification, the band limits setting only
> > affects what frequencies can be entered via the keypad into the VFO.
> > It has absolutely nothing to do with what frequencies that can be
> > programmed into the channels (unless you are programming channels from
> > the radio's keypad).
> >
> >> my issue is although i can ad 220Mhz frequencies to the memories, i
> dare'nt upload in case the radio goes to VHF and UHF only and i lose the
> 220Mhz.
> >> will it lose 220Mhz if i upload as a dual band and not tri-band ??
> > There is no way for CHIRP to change your radio from a 3 band model to
> > a 2 model. As long as you don't change the band limits as shown above,
> > your radio will always cover the factory frequencies. If you are that
> > worried about it, use the factory programming software.
> >
> >> wil the tri-band frequencies install although Chirp say's it's dual
> band ??
> > As long as you choose a model that supports 3 bands (BF-A58S or
> > UV-82III), CHIRP will support 3 bands.
> >
> >> any one ??
> >> thanks..
> >>
> > Jim KC9HI
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