[chirp_users] chirp-daily yaesu ft-991 not present

Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF nigel at ngunn.net
Sun Mar 17 15:40:49 PDT 2019


The driver kenwood_live.py uses CAT commands with a number of Kenwood transceivers.


> On 17 March 2019 at 13:18 Dan Clemmensen <danclemmensen at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>     I just looked at the FT-991 manual: I have been making a bunch of incorrect assumptions. In contrast to the (very few) radios I know about, the FT-991 uses a well-documented data transfer protocol called CAT. CHIRP in general is oriented toward radios with undocumented "memory image transfer" protocols. It is in theory possible to implement a CHIRP driver for the FT-991 without first performing the protocol analysis step. If there is already a worked example of a CHIRP driver that supports a radio using CAT, then support for the FT-991 "should" be easy. I'm not sure where to start looking, though.
> 
>     In my ignorance, I did not realize that the RMS software probably implements CAT for the FT-991, so Amerigo likely assumed that CHIRP would do the same. The use of CAT appears to put the FT-991 into the category of a "live mode" radio instead of being a "clone mode" radio, And I'm only familiar with CHIRP "clone mode".
> 
>     On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 12:39 PM Dennis Wage < dwage at dwage.com mailto:dwage at dwage.com > wrote:
> 
>         > >         I think what he meant was:
> >         my problem is now the chirp for program the Yaesu FT-991 via Cat ( USB-USB ), under Windows 10 with RMS Software no problem,
> > 
> >         This means he has used the 991 with RMS with the USB to USB cable showing us that it works.
> > 
> >          in the actual chirp version i did not can choose the FT-991 from the dropdown list.
> > 
> >         This means he can't choose it because it's not there.
> > 
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> >         On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 12:24 PM Dan Clemmensen < danclemmensen at gmail.com mailto:danclemmensen at gmail.com > wrote:
> > 
> >             > > >             Amerigo, I don't completely understand your question. CHIRP is not a subsisitute for RMS (Winlink) software. Instead, CHIRP replaces or augments the Yaesu programming software for for your radio. You can possibly (probably) run your RMS Windows software on your Linux Mint system by running it under Wine, and you can almost certainly run the Yaesu software under Wine.
> > > 
> > >             If you are asking about support for the FT-991 within CHIRP, then sorry, it's not there. CHIRP is Open Source software written entirely by unpaid volunteers who like to program and who like Ham radio. Each radio type needs to be separately analysed and a driver program written for it. The volunteer will need physical access to a radio to perform the analysis, and will need an absolute minimum of (say) 10 hours of work.  A volunteer who can do this in 10 hours can probably make more than $200/hr on a paid contract, so clearly this must be a "labor of love". Mere mortals will take longer than 10 hours. My guess is that in general a volunteer might program a CHIRP driver for a radio that they have chosen to use themselves, but are less likely to program for some random new radio unless there is a change that the new radio turns out to just need a minor modification or adaptation of an existing driver.
> > > 
> > >             Speaking personally, I am a new CHIRP developer (and a new Ham). I purchased a Yeasu FT-4 before I had even heard of CHIRP, and was unhappy because I later discovered that CHIRP would be highly desirable in my application but the radio was unsupported. So, I wrote a CHIRP driver for it, and incidentally also for the FT-65, since they are very, very similar.  It's been a whole lot of fun, but it took multiple weeks of effort. From a purely financial perspective, it would have made far more sense to just buy a supported radio or even go out and get a 1-week programming gig and then go buy an even more expensive radio.
> > > 
> > >             If you have any programming experience, Please consider trying to write a driver. It's really quite fun. Even if you don't have programming experience, you might want to try to do an initial analysis if the protocol, using some variation of the techniques described at :
> > >                 https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/DevelopersAdd_a_Radio
> > > 
> > >             On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 10:51 PM americo aldighieri < americo at aldighieri.ch mailto:americo at aldighieri.ch > wrote:
> > > 
> > >                 > > > > 
> > > >                 dear all,
> > > > 
> > > >                 my name is amerigo, my QTH ist Tuggen / Switzerland. Ing. Informatic and Electronic
> > > > 
> > > >                 since 2 week all my systems are running under Linux Mint 19.1 , so far , so good.
> > > > 
> > > >                 my problem is now the chirp for program the Yaesu FT-991 via Cat ( USB-USB ), under Windows 10 with RMS Software no problem, in the actual chirp version i did not can choose the FT-991 from the dropdown list.
> > > > 
> > > >                 is there anybody, who can help me?
> > > > 
> > > >                 Asus Z87-Pro MB with 32GB RAM, Quadcore Intel i47xx, 120GB SSD and more
> > > > 
> > > >                 Linux Mint Version 19.1 with latest patches installed
> > > > 
> > > >                 the command "lsusb" show that the Cygnal Integrated Product CP210x UART Bridge succesfully activ with Device 014
> > > > 
> > > >                 best regards from tuggen
> > > > 
> > > >                 amerigo , hb9gii , 73
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