[chirp_users] chirp-daily yaesu ft-991 not present

Dan Clemmensen danclemmensen at gmail.com
Sun Mar 17 10:18:03 PDT 2019


I just looked at the FT-991 manual: I have been making a bunch of incorrect
assumptions. In contrast to the (very few) radios I know about, the FT-991
uses a well-documented data transfer protocol called CAT. CHIRP in general
is oriented toward radios with undocumented "memory image transfer"
protocols. It is in theory possible to implement a CHIRP driver for the
FT-991 without first performing the protocol analysis step. If there is
already a worked example of a CHIRP driver that supports a radio using CAT,
then support for the FT-991 "should" be easy. I'm not sure where to start
looking, though.

In my ignorance, I did not realize that the RMS software probably
implements CAT for the FT-991, so Amerigo likely assumed that CHIRP would
do the same. The use of CAT appears to put the FT-991 into the category of
a "live mode" radio instead of being a "clone mode" radio, And I'm only
familiar with CHIRP "clone mode".

On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 12:39 PM Dennis Wage <dwage at dwage.com> wrote:

> I think what he meant was:
> my problem is now the chirp for program the Yaesu FT-991 via Cat ( USB-USB
> ), under Windows 10 with RMS Software no problem,
>
> This means he has used the 991 with RMS with the USB to USB cable showing
> us that it works.
>
>  in the actual chirp version i did not can choose the FT-991 from the
> dropdown list.
>
> This means he can't choose it because it's not there.
>
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> On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 12:24 PM Dan Clemmensen <danclemmensen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Amerigo, I don't completely understand your question. CHIRP is not a
>> subsisitute for RMS (Winlink) software. Instead, CHIRP replaces or augments
>> the Yaesu programming software for for your radio. You can possibly
>> (probably) run your RMS Windows software on your Linux Mint system by
>> running it under Wine, and you can almost certainly run the Yaesu software
>> under Wine.
>>
>> If you are asking about support for the FT-991 within CHIRP, then sorry,
>> it's not there. CHIRP is Open Source software written entirely by unpaid
>> volunteers who like to program and who like Ham radio. Each radio type
>> needs to be separately analysed and a driver program written for it. The
>> volunteer will need physical access to a radio to perform the analysis, and
>> will need an absolute minimum of (say) 10 hours of work.  A volunteer who
>> can do this in 10 hours can probably make more than $200/hr on a paid
>> contract, so clearly this must be a "labor of love". Mere mortals will take
>> longer than 10 hours. My guess is that in general a volunteer might program
>> a CHIRP driver for a radio that they have chosen to use themselves, but are
>> less likely to program for some random new radio unless there is a change
>> that the new radio turns out to just need a minor modification or
>> adaptation of an existing driver.
>>
>> Speaking personally, I am a new CHIRP developer (and a new Ham). I
>> purchased a Yeasu FT-4 before I had even heard of CHIRP, and was unhappy
>> because I later discovered that CHIRP would be highly desirable in my
>> application but the radio was unsupported. So, I wrote a CHIRP driver for
>> it, and incidentally also for the FT-65, since they are very, very
>> similar.  It's been a whole lot of fun, but it took multiple weeks of
>> effort. From a purely financial perspective, it would have made far more
>> sense to just buy a supported radio or even go out and get a 1-week
>> programming gig and then go buy an even more expensive radio.
>>
>> If you have any programming experience, Please consider trying to write a
>> driver. It's really quite fun. Even if you don't have programming
>> experience, you might want to try to do an initial analysis if the
>> protocol, using some variation of the techniques described at :
>>     https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/DevelopersAdd_a_Radio
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 10:51 PM americo aldighieri <
>> americo at aldighieri.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> dear all,
>>>
>>> my name is amerigo, my QTH ist Tuggen / Switzerland. Ing. Informatic and
>>> Electronic
>>>
>>> since 2 week all my systems are running under Linux Mint 19.1 , so far ,
>>> so good.
>>>
>>> my problem is now the chirp for program the Yaesu FT-991 via Cat (
>>> USB-USB ), under Windows 10 with RMS Software no problem, in the actual
>>> chirp version i did not can choose the FT-991 from the dropdown list.
>>>
>>> is there anybody, who can help me?
>>>
>>> Asus Z87-Pro MB with 32GB RAM, Quadcore Intel i47xx, 120GB SSD and more
>>>
>>> Linux Mint Version 19.1 with latest patches installed
>>>
>>> the command "lsusb" show that the Cygnal Integrated Product CP210x UART
>>> Bridge succesfully activ with Device 014
>>>
>>> best regards from tuggen
>>> amerigo , hb9gii , 73
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