[chirp_users] New Python coming?

Chuck Hast kp4djt at gmail.com
Mon Mar 4 21:27:35 PST 2019

I love Chirp, and I use it to program some of the Chinese radios, I also
use it to program a IC-92AD I have, indeed
that radio brought me to Chirp years ago. Back then it seemed like it
worked great with the radio but now it
sort of hangs saying it is still loading at memory 849 or something like

I also have a ID-5100, that I would love to be able to address with Chirp
rather than the joke that is icom software,
I have offered to loan the radio several times, but no avail. It seems that
people rush to support the Chinese
boxen, but we cannot get the radio that I believe started it all (IC-92)
working correctly and no one will take the
time to even take me up on my offer of a loan to try to get the ID-5100 on
the list of radios.

With the issue with Python looming, of course that will hoover of resources
and time, indeed if someone would
tell me some places to look I might be able to go in and plunck around the
code my self, but no guidance is a
disaster in waiting.

Still, love the application and use it about as much as anything but the
programming for my DMR radios, THAT
gets used a lot...

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:16 PM Richard Shaw <hobbes1069 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 4:43 PM Dan Clemmensen <danclemmensen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Conversion to Python3 is a big issue, for Chirp and for many other
>> projects. A main underlying problem is that CHIRP depends on underlying
>> projects that have not converted. Nevertheless, The main CHIRP developer is
>> in fact working on a conversion. In addition to the CHIRP core, there are
>> also more than 100 separate driver modules to support different radios, and
>> it all must be converted. The developers of Python in their infinite wisdom
>> made changes that affect the semantics of many Python constructs, so all of
>> that stuff needs to be checked, more or less by hand. The average driver is
>> more that 500 lines of code, so there are more than 500,000 lines of code
>> to be checked just in the drivers. Perhaps the biggest changes in Python
>> affect the way strings are handled: Python 3 makes a distinction between
>> text strings and byte strings that did not exist in Python 2. But guess
>> what? serial I/O depends very heavily on the precise semantics of the
>> manipulation of byte strings, and each driver has its own unique serial I/O
>> code.  I am a very recent addition to the CHIRP development community, so
>> the best I could do initially was to make sure that the driver that I wrote
>> is compatible with both Python2 and Python 3.
> Thank you for making an effort to provide a detailed description. Part of
> my annoyance is bugs are often closed with terse reasoning or just flat out
> being ignored. I maintain Chirp on Fedora because I run linux at home so
> it's really my only option but I haven't found a very welcoming upstream in
> years past. I've volunteered to loan radios (my Alinco DR-635 which I WISH
> I could program in chirp... No response.) I've asked for tips on how to
> update the Alinco driver. I have some experience with serial communications
> so I'm not starting from zero... no response.
> Hence my frustrations...
> Thanks,
> Richard
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Chirp + Editcp + MD380Tools on Linux
Chuck -- KP4DJT
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