[chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS

Tom Henderson Tom at Henderson4.us
Sat Jun 22 18:13:02 PDT 2019


Used them years ago at Disney World with success, but would far prefer a 
ham HT, especially in Disney, where they have on-campus VHF and UHF 
repeaters. http://w2abc.org/w2abc/our-disney-ham-radio-partners/

Tom Henderson

On 6/22/19 7:56 PM, Glenn At Home wrote:
> Even well branded ones, like the Motorola ones have a poor range, like 
> a block or two at best.
> They are useful around one's urban property, but that's about all they 
> are good for.
> Glenn
>
> *From:* David <mailto:weather at lightingunlimited.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 22, 2019 7:50 PM
> *To:* Gene McKnight via chirp_users 
> <mailto:chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
>
> I have never had any luck using FRS radios. Things have very poor 
> range. And I am talking about the FRS radios you can buy that only do 
> FRS. Pretty worthless in my book. Anyone else have any luck with FRS 
> radios?
>
> I have moved on to GoTennaMESH they work way way better.
>
> David
>
> On 6/22/2019 6:51 PM, Gene McKnight via chirp_users wrote:
>>
>> Spencer, this is one of many of these emails. This email will be 
>> followed by others.    Gene
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 20, 2019, 11:02:57 PM CDT, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. 
>> <n1ea at arrl.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> We also do not want to be accomplices in the commission of a crime.
>>
>>
>>     §95.335   Operation of non-certified transmitters prohibited.
>>
>>
>> https://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?SID=513d144496fe583b1100416953ca419f&mc=true&node=se47.5.95_1335&rgn=div8 
>>
>>
>> GMRS and FRS regulations have changed, but unlicensed FRS does not 
>> permit any radio that has a removable antenna.  Also radios have to 
>> be certified under FCC Part 95. UV-5R isn't on the list, and FCC is 
>> planning on banning the import of any radio capable of being used on 
>> a frequency that the unit is not licensed for.  That is if it isn't 
>> an amateur radio, in the future any radio imported will only be able 
>> to be used on amateur radio frequencies.
>>
>> Also in the near future, radios will not be legally allowed to be 
>> manufactured, imported , or sold that can be used on BOTH GMRS and 
>> FRS.  This is going to cause a problem for licensed amateur radio 
>> operators  who own such radios, like I do:
>>
>>
>>     §95.1791   Sales of GMRS/FRS combination radios prohibited.
>>
>> (a) Effective September 30, 2019, no person shall be permitted to 
>> manufacture or import, sell or offer for sale any radio equipment 
>> capable of operating under both this subpart (GMRS) and subpart B 
>> (FRS) of this chapter.
>>
>>
>> FRS allows 2 watts or less on channels 1 – 7 and the previously GMRS 
>> only channels of 15 – 22, but only 0.5 watts on channels 8 – 14.
>> GMRS licensees can use up to 50 watts, but there are somewhat 
>> complicated restrictions and an FCC 10 year renewable license (good 
>> for entire family) is needed. GMRS licensees can also operate on 8 
>> additional repeater frequencies.
>>
>> The regulations for GMRS are quite complicated. 
>> https://ecfr.io/Title-47/se47.5.95_11767
>>
>> I think the past practice of this group not to provide such 
>> information to unlicensed persons is a wise one.
>>
>> 73
>> David N1EA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:48 PM Glenn At Home 
>> <glennervin at cableone.net <mailto:glennervin at cableone.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Let's not play police here.
>>     I do believe that the FCC has allowed some of the FRS
>>     frequencies, now up to 2 watts.
>>     To answer the question, make sure the same frequencies are in the
>>     column next to the receive column.
>>     I don't recall if they are labeled RX and TX or what.
>>     Glenn
>>
>>     *From:* John Wuest <mailto:jhwuest at gmail.com>
>>     *Sent:* Thursday, June 20, 2019 3:42 PM
>>     *To:* Discussion of CHIRP
>>     <mailto:chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
>>     *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] Transmit UV5r to FRS
>>
>>     Using your UV-5R on FRS frequencies will be a violation of
>>     Federal Law. That radio is not, nor can not be, type accepted for
>>     that service.
>>
>>     On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 4:25 PM Todd J. Unkefer
>>     <tunkefer at gmail.com <mailto:tunkefer at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         I can hear the FRS radios on their respective channels, I
>>         cannot transmit on those respective channels. How can I
>>         enable the transmit on chirp?
>>
>>         Thanks, in advance.
>>
>>         Todd
>>
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