[chirp_users] New user, and question on diagnosing new radio

Tim Lavoie
Sat May 12 11:06:35 PDT 2018


Good to know, thanks. This is a 2018 version, hopefully better behaved 
now. The link below has a lower-tech way to test via the sound on an 
analog radio, which is handy too.


On 2018-05-12 10:55 AM, Jeff wrote:
> Looks like you wouldn't want to use some of these radios on amateur 
> repeaters even if you could.
>
> https://www.rmham.org/wordpress/baofeng-dm-5r-test-results/
>
>
> On May 12, 2018 4:58:23 PM UTC, Tim Lavoie <tim.lavoie at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>     Thanks Neil. I've just been looking at the links from John, and
>     yeah, getting a sense that there's lots more going on there.
>
>
>     In terms of being able to just talk to the radio though, are they
>     different? Basically wondering if software could read the whole
>     works, update the bits it does understand, and then put it all back.
>
>
>     The openspot devices look interesting too, thanks.
>
>       Tim
>
>     On 2018-05-12 09:45 AM, neil b wrote:
>>
>>     dmr is more complex to program than a 1 dimension memory layout
>>     of analog radios. theres talkgroups, colours, zones, contacts etc
>>     and they have to be then stitched together by the software. a
>>     sharkrf openspot may be usefull to you if no local repeaters.
>>     recommended. i got 2 😊
>>
>>     otherwise, chirp is the best app for me on my other fleet of
>>     radios, works great.
>>
>>
>>
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     *From:* chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com
>>     <chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com> on behalf of Tim
>>     Lavoie <tim.lavoie at gmail.com>
>>     *Sent:* 12 May 2018 17:31
>>     *To:* chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
>>     *Subject:* Re: [chirp_users] New user, and question on diagnosing
>>     new radio
>>     Thanks John.
>>
>>     Do you know if that's a technical limitation, or just means that
>>     there
>>     hasn't been anyone trying to work with this model yet? Are the
>>     protocols
>>     used to talk to the radios documented anywhere? Could always look
>>     at the
>>     source I suppose.  <grin>
>>
>>     For what it's worth, it turns out I don't have a digital repeater
>>     in my
>>     area yet anyway, but will be looking to set up for regular analog
>>     use.
>>
>>        Tim
>>
>>
>>     On 2018-05-12 12:56 AM, John LaMartina wrote:will be looking to
>>     set up
>>     for regular analog use.
>>     > The digital version of the Baofeng is not supported by CHIRP.
>>     >
>>     > John
>>     >
>>     >
>>     https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.miklor.com%2FDMR%2F&data=02%7C01%7C%7C11e2631fdf1f4c551ef308d5b825e042%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636617395165274588&sdata=aZ5idagHaA7qc%2Fwb4jqe3C%2BoqP6e%2BR%2B3u1diwNxyddk%3D&reserved=0
>>     >
>>     https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Http%3A%2F%2Fwww.miklor.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C11e2631fdf1f4c551ef308d5b825e042%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636617395165274588&sdata=JE92KQIDxCnH11XCTAcEiaRtb3Umfzi0KvgILGBJji8%3D&reserved=0
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >> On May 12, 2018, at 3:24 AM, Matthieu Lochey <mat at lochey.eu>
>>     wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >> Hi Amnon Zohar
>>     >> It's not the same radio.
>>     >> This new one have:
>>     >> Mode DMR, TDMA, Tier 2, 2 TimeSlot.
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>> Le 12/05/2018 à 09:05, Amnon Zohar a écrit :
>>     >>> you could have bought the same radio for much less
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
>>     https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.aliexpress.com%2Fitem%2FBAOFENG-UV-5R-Walkie-Talkie-UHF-VHF-Dual-Band-CB-Radio-uv5r-VOX-Flashlight-Dual-Display%2F32803983251.html%3Fspm%3D2114.search0104.6.5.20c07690FJP3cG%26s%3Dp&data=02%7C01%7C%7C11e2631fdf1f4c551ef308d5b825e042%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636617395165274588&sdata=eMnNLjVcuJCS8tJUK1MzTM%2B57Xr8MpgZ2IKT%2FnsyIyo%3D&reserved=0
>>     >>>
>>     https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F1pcs-Baofeng-UV-5R-VHF-UHF-400-520Mhz-Two-way-Radio-Walkie-Talkie-Earpiece%2F222720479758%3Fepid%3D218831019%26hash%3Ditem33db2cd20e%3Ag%3AiKIAAOSwPzhaAWdX&data=02%7C01%7C%7C11e2631fdf1f4c551ef308d5b825e042%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636617395165274588&sdata=qw4JtsgjBlZWun9OghCTCzWnIrSSncW%2BFyBF6ZzqYrU%3D&reserved=0
>>     >>>
>>     >>> 2018-05-12 9:29 GMT+03:00 Tim Lavoie <tim.lavoie at gmail.com
>>     >>> <mailto:tim.lavoie at gmail.com>>:
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     Hello all,
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     Call me new to everything - brand new ham (VA7TJL), new
>>     Chirp user,
>>     >>>     and have a new radio. I've read docs, but please let me
>>     know if the
>>     >>>     questions are too dumb.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     I've picked up a Baofeng DM-5R, V3 as seen here:
>>     >>>
>>     https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fleetwooddp.com%2Fproducts%2Fpre-order-baofeng-dm-5r-v3-2018-digital-dmr-dual-band-amateur-ham-radio&data=02%7C01%7C%7C11e2631fdf1f4c551ef308d5b825e042%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636617395165274588&sdata=H2MMwKEeBh7dcoCef4cu5524nT9XAJhfuaipSJGRUfQ%3D&reserved=0
>>     >>>    
>>     <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fleetwooddp.com%2Fproducts%2Fpre-order-baofeng-dm-5r-v3-2018-digital-dmr-dual-band-amateur-ham-radio&data=02%7C01%7C%7C11e2631fdf1f4c551ef308d5b825e042%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636617395165274588&sdata=H2MMwKEeBh7dcoCef4cu5524nT9XAJhfuaipSJGRUfQ%3D&reserved=0>
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     It shows up as BF-5R on the boot screen, but neither that
>>     nor DM-5R
>>     >>>     are listed as supported. I did see though that there are
>>     other
>>     >>>     Baofeng radios under new and unusual names, that might be
>>     supported
>>     >>>     as a variant of one that is known. If there is a way to
>>     tell if this
>>     >>>     is the case, I'm open to suggestions.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>     The Windows software from the manufacturer does detect
>>     and read the
>>     >>>     config from the radio, but the USB device (radio with
>>     supplied
>>     >>>     cable) shows up in settings Win 10 settings as, "MCU
>>     MOUSE DEMO",
>>     >>>     under the "Bluetooth and other Devices" section. When I
>>     try to read
>>     >>>     from the radio in Chirp, there is nothing shown under
>>     Ports in the
>>     >>>     drop down. I can select Baofeng as the vendor, and a
>>     number of other
>>     >>>     models are listed. Similarly, under Linux (current x64
>>     Mint, based
>>     >>>     on Ubuntu)
>>     >>>     , there is no known port that the software is looking for.
>>     >>>
>>     >>>        Ideas?
>>     >>>
>>     >>>        Cheers,
>>     >>>        Tim
>>     >>>
>>     >>>
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