[chirp_users] TSQL / CTCSS

Jeff wireless3.14159 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 31 19:11:54 PDT 2018


Bad enough already when everyone is wide. Audio is all over the map.

On April 1, 2018 1:52:19 AM UTC, Nigel Johnson <nw.johnson at ieee.org> wrote:
>It depends on the age of the person you are talking to.  When I first
>got into 2m FM 48 years ago, Wide was 15kHz deviation and barrow was
>5kHz!
>
>When you get down below 3kHz you are losing the FM effect.
>
>There is no way we should be using the new narrow - our bands are
>barely
>occupied now, therefore no need for squeezing more in. Most of the
>repeaters I know if in my city have filters for 16F3 acceptance.
>(Carson's rule: 5 kHz deviation plus 3 kHz audio times 2)
>
>When you get people using the new barrow on a repeater with 16F3
>acceptance, there is a marked difference in audio level and susceptance
>to noise. It is difficult to listen to a multi-way QSO without riding
>the volume control up and down, and some of the people I hear on the
>repeater are so low that I can barely hear them when I have it turned
>all teh way up wit mobile noise.
>
>73 de Nigel ve3id
>
>
>
>
>On 31/03/18 21:38, Jardy Dawson via chirp_users wrote:
>> Public safety/business is narrow.  GMRS/FRS/Marine will not change,
>as
>> those radios are not separately programmable.  Ham will stay wide for
>now.
>>
>> Jardy Dawson
>> WA7JRD Ham Radio
>>
>> Message sent by... Oh who the heck really cares?
>>
>> On Mar 31, 2018, at 17:41, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel at ngunn.net
>> <mailto:nigel at ngunn.net>> wrote:
>>
>> It's true of most repeaters in the the American continent, however,
>> the rest of the world has been narrow band for many years.
>>
>> Officially, the US is also narrow band. Americans are just reluctant
>> to change.
>>
>> Same is true with metric measurements.
>>
>> Use wide on a narrow system and your audio on speech peaks might be
>> distorted. Use narrow on a wide system and you will get good audio
>> quality albeit at a slightly lower level.
>>
>>
>>> On 31 March 2018 at 18:48 John Wuest <jhwuest at gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jhwuest at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ALSO - Someone commented that the transmit mode needs to be changed
>>> to Wide Band. This is CORRECT information for ALL ham repeaters
>>> unless their specific information states otherwise. The repeater
>>> (145.23 in Huntsville) is a wide-band machine.
>>>
>> Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel
>+1
>> 937 825 5032
>> Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF 9H3GN), e-mail nigel at ngunn.net
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