[chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 111, Issue 13 - This just kills me (all)

Dennis Wage dwage at dwage.com
Sat Mar 24 12:40:56 PDT 2018


Talking about the cost of the UV-5R, I saw a 'Buy It Now' on Ebay for 11.99
for 2 radios. New!!

Dennis M. Wage

245 Corum Hill Road
Castalian Springs, TN 37031
(615) 310-4242 Cell
(615) 562-5128 Home
http://hammondb3organ.net
http://overdubs.net

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Aubrey Turner <aubrey.c.turner at gmail.com>
wrote:

> LOL
>
> You confused me with the original post.  I thought you were trying to link
> to a UV-5R accessory.  :-)
>
> On 03/22/2018 07:04 AM, Dennis Wage wrote:
>
> What I am confused about is that my original post was not about radios at
> all.
>
> It was the fact that I had to pay almost $10 more than my UV-5R for a
> remote for my Apollo gate.
>
> How did this happen?  ;-)
>
> Dennis M. Wage
>
> 245 Corum Hill Road
> Castalian Springs, TN 37031
> (615) 310-4242 Cell
> (615) 562-5128 Home
> http://hammondb3organ.net
> http://overdubs.net
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:44 AM, Chuck Hast <kp4djt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just bought one the other day, a UV-5X3
>>
>> See comments in text below:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 11:30 PM, Christopher F. Beesley <
>> chrisbees2 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've said it before and I'll say it again. The whole concept of
>>> programmable devices that can be programmed to destruction by interfering
>>> with the 'wrong' memory is flawed from the start and I don't understand why
>>> people buy them. The whole concept of programmable devices that require the
>>> use of non-standard cables which in turn require the use of out-of-date
>>> drivers on the programming device is ridiculous. Why these radios have
>>> gained such a following is beyond me. Why most of them have not been
>>> returned for refunds the minute they exhibit the faults that I have read
>>> about on here time and time again is also beyond me. Whatever happened to
>>> Plug And Play?
>>>
>>
>> I removed radio from box, put it on the charger, and made sure it was
>> charged.
>> Then I plugged USB device into computer, and radio started Chirp, told it
>> what the radio was, downloaded the original radio data, made a copy and
>> started from there.
>>
>>
>>> As an example, even the cheapest printer has more complex
>>> user-selectable parameters available than most of the programmable radios.
>>> Printers come with drivers that work, with user-friendly user-interfaces
>>> that only allow the programming of whatever is sensibly programmable, and
>>> with hardware interfaces that are connected to the programming device via
>>> standard cables available from the average supermarket down the road. When
>>> I bought my UV5R it came with a programming cable that didn't work, and an
>>> incomprehensible CD full of software that is mostly useless. When I finally
>>> got something to work the user-interface to the spread-sheet lookalike was
>>> at best clunky - I would describe it as awful. There were no instructions
>>> to speak of and no support from the suppliers.
>>>
>>
>> I read the manual that came with the radio, yes it was somewhat banged up
>> English but it got enough information to me to be able to get the radio
>> up and
>> going with a minimum of fidgeting.
>>
>> I see that most of the issues seem to revolve around the USB drivers for
>> windows, but alas, I do not have that issue as I use Linux. Perhaps a
>> change
>> of OS?
>>
>>
>>> When I add up the hours I have spent and apply a reasonable hourly rate
>>> it becomes obvious that these radios are not cheap at all.
>>>
>>> I recently read somewhere that recent handhelds from at least one of the
>>> big three suffers from the same problems. That's it then - the end of
>>> amateur radio is nigh. My one regret is that me and my UV5R have
>>> contributed to that because I did not return it for a refund.
>>>
>>> (The UV5R is not a particularly good radio anyway. The colour display
>>> uses far too much power and cannot cope with bright sunlight. Mono displays
>>> are generally far better in both respects, and who really needs colour?)
>>>
>>> 73, Chris, an Amateur Radio operator since 1973.
>>>
>>
>> Yes the screens can be hard to read in sunlight, and you probably do not
>> want
>> to drop one on concrete, but for the price it really can't be beat, and I
>> have
>> a few young people that I think I can get going to become amateurs
>> because of
>> these little radios.
>>
>> Oh yes it took me perhaps a total of 15 minutes (not counting the charge
>> time)
>> to go from box to loaded radio, so I do not consider that a lot of wasted
>> time.
>>
>> Yes there are a lot of issues, but for what I paid to get on the air with
>> it, it is
>> chump change.
>>
>> I even have 220 mHz on the little box, something I have never had a real
>> chance
>> at playing with.
>>
>> When I travel for work it is neat to be able to access 3 bands and get on
>> the
>> air from the hotel room on those 3 bands. All for less than $60. Can't
>> beat that.
>>
>> And then there is the TYT MD-380, DMR all over the place, those two radios
>> have made my amateur radio activity a lot more universal, so I will take
>> the
>> "issues" every day if i can get from a device what I get from those two
>> radios.
>>
>> Best regards and above all:
>> ENJOY!
>>
>> --
>> Chirp + Editcp + MD380Tools on Linux
>> Celestial!!!
>> Chuck -- KP4DJT
>>
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