[chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 111, Issue 13 - This just kills me (all)

Aubrey Turner aubrey.c.turner at gmail.com
Sat Mar 24 12:28:08 PDT 2018


You confused me with the original post.  I thought you were trying to 
link to a UV-5R accessory.  :-)

On 03/22/2018 07:04 AM, Dennis Wage wrote:
> What I am confused about is that my original post was not about radios 
> at all.
> It was the fact that I had to pay almost $10 more than my UV-5R for a 
> remote for my Apollo gate.
> How did this happen? ;-)
> Dennis M. Wage
> 245 Corum Hill Road
> Castalian Springs, TN 37031
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> On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:44 AM, Chuck Hast <kp4djt at gmail.com 
> <mailto:kp4djt at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     I just bought one the other day, a UV-5X3
>     See comments in text below:
>     On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 11:30 PM, Christopher F. Beesley
>     <chrisbees2 at hotmail.com <mailto:chrisbees2 at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>         I've said it before and I'll say it again. The whole concept
>         of programmable devices that can be programmed to destruction
>         by interfering with the 'wrong' memory is flawed from the
>         start and I don't understand why people buy them. The whole
>         concept of programmable devices that require the use of
>         non-standard cables which in turn require the use of
>         out-of-date drivers on the programming device is ridiculous.
>         Why these radios have gained such a following is beyond me.
>         Why most of them have not been returned for refunds the minute
>         they exhibit the faults that I have read about on here time
>         and time again is also beyond me. Whatever happened to Plug
>         And Play?
>     I removed radio from box, put it on the charger, and made sure it
>     was charged.
>     Then I plugged USB device into computer, and radio started Chirp,
>     told it
>     what the radio was, downloaded the original radio data, made a
>     copy and
>     started from there.
>         As an example, even the cheapest printer has more complex
>         user-selectable parameters available than most of the
>         programmable radios. Printers come with drivers that work,
>         with user-friendly user-interfaces that only allow the
>         programming of whatever is sensibly programmable, and with
>         hardware interfaces that are connected to the programming
>         device via standard cables available from the average
>         supermarket down the road. When I bought my UV5R it came with
>         a programming cable that didn't work, and an incomprehensible
>         CD full of software that is mostly useless. When I finally got
>         something to work the user-interface to the spread-sheet
>         lookalike was at best clunky - I would describe it as awful.
>         There were no instructions to speak of and no support from the
>         suppliers.
>     I read the manual that came with the radio, yes it was somewhat
>     banged up
>     English but it got enough information to me to be able to get the
>     radio up and
>     going with a minimum of fidgeting.
>     I see that most of the issues seem to revolve around the USB
>     drivers for
>     windows, but alas, I do not have that issue as I use Linux.
>     Perhaps a change
>     of OS?
>         When I add up the hours I have spent and apply a reasonable
>         hourly rate it becomes obvious that these radios are not cheap
>         at all.
>         I recently read somewhere that recent handhelds from at least
>         one of the big three suffers from the same problems. That's it
>         then - the end of amateur radio is nigh. My one regret is that
>         me and my UV5R have contributed to that because I did not
>         return it for a refund.
>         (The UV5R is not a particularly good radio anyway. The colour
>         display uses far too much power and cannot cope with bright
>         sunlight. Mono displays are generally far better in both
>         respects, and who really needs colour?)
>         73, Chris, an Amateur Radio operator since 1973.
>     Yes the screens can be hard to read in sunlight, and you probably
>     do not want
>     to drop one on concrete, but for the price it really can't be
>     beat, and I have
>     a few young people that I think I can get going to become amateurs
>     because of
>     these little radios.
>     Oh yes it took me perhaps a total of 15 minutes (not counting the
>     charge time)
>     to go from box to loaded radio, so I do not consider that a lot of
>     wasted time.
>     Yes there are a lot of issues, but for what I paid to get on the
>     air with it, it is
>     chump change.
>     I even have 220 mHz on the little box, something I have never had
>     a real chance
>     at playing with.
>     When I travel for work it is neat to be able to access 3 bands and
>     get on the
>     air from the hotel room on those 3 bands. All for less than $60.
>     Can't beat that.
>     And then there is the TYT MD-380, DMR all over the place, those
>     two radios
>     have made my amateur radio activity a lot more universal, so I
>     will take the
>     "issues" every day if i can get from a device what I get from
>     those two radios.
>     Best regards and above all:
>     ENJOY!
>     -- 
>     Chirp + Editcp + MD380Tools on Linux
>     Celestial!!!
>     Chuck -- KP4DJT
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