[chirp_users] Chirp began ten years ago today...

Eric Oyen eric.oyen at icloud.com
Wed Jul 4 12:38:23 PDT 2018


Um, yes and no.
Having been a Linux user since Kernel 1.x, I can tell you it is sufficiently different to cause a few problems for the novice user (especially a blind one). And no, you can’t just install it on any modern UEFI enabled machine either without making changes to the UEFI configuration (turning off secure boot, allowing boot from USB, etc).

Now, once you get to a desktop environment, then it can be made to have the feel of windows 7. Your best bet is still unity or a gnome variant in order to make this happen as KDE isn’t quite as accessible). 

In any case, Linux is about the only OS where you will get any accessibility with CHIRP (and some of the dialogs are still a little hit and miss there).  I gave up a long time ago trying to convince the developers here to tweak their code to make the program accessible in windows.

Btw, if you want some accessibility for an OS, you can try either Ubuntu or Vinux Project (which is getting folded into SONAR for redhat fedora) They can be installed and run from a USB stick easily enough. :)

DE n7zzt (Eric Oyen)
One of the original founders of the Phoenix Linux Users Group, - celebrating 20 years!


> On Jul 4, 2018, at 11:27 AM, Glenn Ervin <glennervin at cableone.net> wrote:
> 
> You are incorrect.
> You may use Linux and it is fully accessible with the Orca screenreader.
> You don't need to learn a new operating system, Linux is more like Windows 7 than Windows 10 is.
> You can even get an ISO image to burn to DVD that boots up talking with Chirp ready to go.
> I don't use that, so others might be able to inform you on where to get it.
> I install Chirp onto Ubuntu 16.04 and use Orca.
> Glenn
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BobJ <mailto:rjustice004 at woh.rr.com>
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <mailto:chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 9:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp began ten years ago today...
> 
> As far as I know, after ten years, Chirp is still not accessible by blind hams who must use screen-reading software.  If I am wrong about that, please let me know, otherwise, I'll withhold my praise until Chirp becomes accessible by blind hams.
>  
> 73   Bob   AD8RJ
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>  
> 
> From: Chuck Hast <mailto:kp4djt at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 12:51 AM
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <mailto:chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp began ten years ago today...
> 
> Dan,
> First a big hat off to you and all on that list for the great work and piece of art.
> It is funny, I was working in Kalama WA in a newly opened glass plant, the company that
> I worked for had sold them the fore hearths and glass container inspection machines. My
> job was to bring those machines on line and then train and shepherd those folks in the
> inspections of the bottles. I had tons of overtime so I toddled down to HRO in PDX and
> got me a 92AT. That was I think in late Aug 2008 or Sept. I know it had not started raining
> yet and the weather was still good. It was one of the folks at HRO that aimed me your
> direction I believe it was. I did not know that the project was that new. I do not remember
> when I downloaded the first code, but it worked on that 92AT (I still have it). 
> 
> By way I now live in Oklahoma, but I sure miss the NW...
> 
> Looks like I joined the list on 20 Jun 2009. 
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 5:53 PM W. T. Jones <wn3lif at gmail.com <mailto:wn3lif at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Thanks to All that made Chirp possible! Never knew there were so many.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> WT
> Real heroes do not wear capes. They wear dog tags, turnout gear, and badges!
> 
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 2:50 PM, John La <Johnla at usa.net <mailto:Johnla at usa.net>>wrote:
>  
> 
> Thank you to Team CHIRP. An invaluable service to the Amateur Radio community.
> John  ‘Miklor’   K3NXU
> http://www.miklor.com <http://www.miklor.com/>
> http://www.miklor.com/DMR/ <http://www.miklor.com/DMR/>
> 
>  
> From: chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com> [mailto:chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com>] On Behalf Of Barry K Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 2:32 PM
> 
> To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp began ten years ago today...
> 
> 
>  
> yes this program has saved a lot of hours
> 
> thanks for it
> 
>  
> 
> Barry aka  N2NVP, Pass-Pres GCARC, retired Vol Lt 884, CERT, SKYWARN 128A
> 
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>  
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> From: chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com> <chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com <mailto:chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com>> on behalf of Norman Sebern <nsebern14 at gmail.com <mailto:nsebern14 at gmail.com>> Sent: Tuesday, July 3, 2018 10:38 AM To: Discussion of CHIRP Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Chirp began ten years ago today...
> 
>  
> Thank YOU. 
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> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018, 7:32 AM Frank <k1hlz at pcicon.net <mailto:k1hlz at pcicon.net>> wrote:
> 
> Congratulations on reaching your 10 year milestone with such a great piece of software! As a fairly new Ham, it's made my life a lot easier. Thank you!
> 73s Frank K1HLZ
> 
> On July 3, 2018 9:24:44 AM EDT, Dan Smith <dsmith at danplanet.com <mailto:dsmith at danplanet.com>> wrote: 
> 
> Hi all,
> I just wanted to share a milestone in the CHIRP project with the community. Ten years ago today, on July 3rd 2008, I made the first commit to the repository which started the chirp project:
> https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/repository/revisions/31cfb1a376fb <https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/repository/revisions/31cfb1a376fb>
> It was just a rough bit of code that could talk to an Icom IC-92AD and I was apparently thinking of calling it "repidr". I do not recall what that was supposed to stand for, but by July 16th I had renamed it to CHIRP:
> https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/repository/revisions/646c121a847b <https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/repository/revisions/646c121a847b>
> By July 19th, I was ready to make something available, which was just able to read and write CSV files, and talk to Icom IC-9x radios and the ID-800H. This was the first version 0.1.1:
> https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/repository/revisions/1428729c41b7 <https://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/repository/revisions/1428729c41b7>
> I still remember the large stack of paper on the corner of my desk where I had written out tons of hex, all in pencil, erased and re-written many times, trying to decode the first few radio memories and looking for patterns to make it easier.
> The project has come a long way since then, largely due to the help and involvement of other volunteers and users. While the first release supported two radio models, the latest one supports 228 distinct models, with more if you count the many clones that exist. The users mailing list has a fairly amazing 2892 people subscribed, from all over the world, representing a tiny fraction of the total user base.
> So, I just want to thank all the people who have made CHIRP possible and successful. Especially contributors of code, bug reports, and test reports, but also people who have spent hours on this list helping others and being the support system that allows volunteer developers to focus on what they do best. Thanks to anyone who has ever sent a donation, as well as the commercial outfits who have contributed radios and other help. There are too many to name, but BaofengTech, BlueMax49ers, and Jetstream are a few that come to mind as having a substantial impact.
> At the end of this email is a very rough list of all the code contributors to the project, extracted from the repository with minimal attempts to squash some duplicates. These are the rock stars that have gotten us to where we are today, so please join me in thanking them for spending their nights and weekends making this project the success that it is today!
> --Dan
>  Commits Contributor -------|
>    1865 Dan Smith     240 Jim Unroe     189 Tom Hayward     188 Marco Filippi     137 Zach Welch      59 Jens Jensen      58 Pavel Milanes (CO7WT)      26 K. Arvanitis      15 Tyler Tidman      12 Richard Cochran      10 Dan Drogichen       8 Sean Burford       8 Rick Farina       8 Michael Wagner       8 Eric Allen       8 Brian Dickman       7 SASANO Takayoshi       6 Vernon Mauery       6 Ron Wellsted       6 Rhett Robinson       6 Ray Cielencki       5 Rick DeWitt       5 Keith Williamson       4 Tim Smith       4 Nicolas Pike       4 Mathias Weyland       4 IT2 Stuart Blake Tener, USNR (N3GWG)       4 David Griffith       4 Chris Fosnight       4 Angus Ainslie       4 Alexey K       3 Rick Farina       3 Leo Bärring       3 Jon K Hellan       3 Christopher Hoover       3 Ben Smith       2 Richard Birch       2 Nathan Crapo       2 Michal Demin       2 Louie Ilievski       2 Johan Adler       2 Dean Gibson       2 Cody P Schafer       1 Windsor Schmidt       1 Wade Simmons       1 Stuart Tener       1 Steve Conklin       1 Ryan Tourge K2RRT x       1 Robert Terzi       1 Robert Morris       1 Patrik Nilsson       1 nytowl       1 Nolan Darilek       1 nicolas jon pike       1 Mike Pittaro       1 Michal D       1 Michael Lippold       1 Mark Adams       1 loudawgucr at gmail.com <mailto:loudawgucr at gmail.com>       1 Krystian SP6IT       1 kc1ckh at arrl.net <mailto:kc1ckh at arrl.net>       1 Jeremy McDermond       1 James Lee N1DDK       1 Imuli       1 Eric Dropps       1 Ed Santiago       1 Declan Rieb       1 David Fannin       1 Dave Allan       1 Dale Tyler       1 Charles Stewart       1 Brett Bump       1 Brad Ackerman       1 Attilio Pannella       1 Andrew       1 Adam Coddington       1 ac2lq       1 Aaron Pelly	
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> Chirp + Editcp + MD380Tools on Linux
> Celestial!!!
> Chuck -- KP4DJT
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