[chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 108, Issue 19

Chuck Hast
Mon Jan 1 10:32:54 PST 2018


Can you open a terminal and do ls  /dev/tty*  Make the screen large enough
so
you can do a comparison like this:
Pre-usb serial dongle insertion:
kp4djt at kp4djt64:~$ ls /dev/tty*
/dev/tty    /dev/tty18  /dev/tty28  /dev/tty38  /dev/tty48  /dev/tty58
/dev/ttyS0   /dev/ttyS19  /dev/ttyS29
/dev/tty0   /dev/tty19  /dev/tty29  /dev/tty39  /dev/tty49  /dev/tty59
/dev/ttyS1   /dev/ttyS2   /dev/ttyS3
/dev/tty1   /dev/tty2   /dev/tty3   /dev/tty4   /dev/tty5   /dev/tty6
 /dev/ttyS10  /dev/ttyS20  /dev/ttyS30
/dev/tty10  /dev/tty20  /dev/tty30  /dev/tty40  /dev/tty50  /dev/tty60
/dev/ttyS11  /dev/ttyS21  /dev/ttyS31
/dev/tty11  /dev/tty21  /dev/tty31  /dev/tty41  /dev/tty51  /dev/tty61
/dev/ttyS12  /dev/ttyS22  /dev/ttyS4
/dev/tty12  /dev/tty22  /dev/tty32  /dev/tty42  /dev/tty52  /dev/tty62
/dev/ttyS13  /dev/ttyS23  /dev/ttyS5
/dev/tty13  /dev/tty23  /dev/tty33  /dev/tty43  /dev/tty53  /dev/tty63
/dev/ttyS14  /dev/ttyS24  /dev/ttyS6
/dev/tty14  /dev/tty24  /dev/tty34  /dev/tty44  /dev/tty54  /dev/tty7
 /dev/ttyS15  /dev/ttyS25  /dev/ttyS7
/dev/tty15  /dev/tty25  /dev/tty35  /dev/tty45  /dev/tty55  /dev/tty8
 /dev/ttyS16  /dev/ttyS26  /dev/ttyS8
/dev/tty16  /dev/tty26  /dev/tty36  /dev/tty46  /dev/tty56  /dev/tty9
 /dev/ttyS17  /dev/ttyS27  /dev/ttyS9
/dev/tty17  /dev/tty27  /dev/tty37  /dev/tty47  /dev/tty57  /dev/ttyprintk
/dev/ttyS18  /dev/ttyS28

Post USB serial dongle insertion
kp4djt at kp4djt64:~$ ls /dev/tty*
/dev/tty    /dev/tty18  /dev/tty28  /dev/tty38  /dev/tty48  /dev/tty58
/dev/ttyS0   /dev/ttyS19  /dev/ttyS29
/dev/tty0   /dev/tty19  /dev/tty29  /dev/tty39  /dev/tty49  /dev/tty59
/dev/ttyS1   /dev/ttyS2   /dev/ttyS3
/dev/tty1   /dev/tty2   /dev/tty3   /dev/tty4   /dev/tty5   /dev/tty6
 /dev/ttyS10  /dev/ttyS20  /dev/ttyS30
/dev/tty10  /dev/tty20  /dev/tty30  /dev/tty40  /dev/tty50  /dev/tty60
/dev/ttyS11  /dev/ttyS21  /dev/ttyS31
/dev/tty11  /dev/tty21  /dev/tty31  /dev/tty41  /dev/tty51  /dev/tty61
/dev/ttyS12  /dev/ttyS22  /dev/ttyS4
/dev/tty12  /dev/tty22  /dev/tty32  /dev/tty42  /dev/tty52  /dev/tty62
/dev/ttyS13  /dev/ttyS23  /dev/ttyS5
/dev/tty13  /dev/tty23  /dev/tty33  /dev/tty43  /dev/tty53  /dev/tty63
/dev/ttyS14  /dev/ttyS24  /dev/ttyS6
/dev/tty14  /dev/tty24  /dev/tty34  /dev/tty44  /dev/tty54  /dev/tty7
 /dev/ttyS15  /dev/ttyS25  /dev/ttyS7
/dev/tty15  /dev/tty25  /dev/tty35  /dev/tty45  /dev/tty55  /dev/tty8
 /dev/ttyS16  /dev/ttyS26  /dev/ttyS8
/dev/tty16  /dev/tty26  /dev/tty36  /dev/tty46  /dev/tty56  /dev/tty9
 /dev/ttyS17  /dev/ttyS27  /dev/ttyS9
/dev/tty17  /dev/tty27  /dev/tty37  /dev/tty47  /dev/tty57  /dev/ttyprintk
/dev/ttyS18  /dev/ttyS28  */dev/ttyUSB0*
kp4djt at kp4djt64:~$

Note that last entry in the second screen, that or something like it is
what you are
looking for.

That is the first step I take to finding them.

On Mon, Jan 1, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Parrish Roberson via chirp_users <
chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:

> Ran all the terminal codes. Doesn’t see the port or cable on the Mac or on
> parallels tried 2 different BaoFeng cables. Odd they would both be bad.
> Hopefully it will work soon. Thanks
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 1, 2018, at 5:46 AM, Dave B <g8kbv at uku.co.uk> wrote:
>
> The only info I'd add, is to find out how to prevent your OS from sleeping
> an application and also from powering down what it things are unused USB
> ports.   I'm not a Mac owner/user, but I hear that "AppNap" causes *A LOT*
> of issues.
>
> Also, research and find out how the serial ports are identified on your
> particular system, and how to search for those that *Really* exist.   Mac
> OS's are based on BSD, so there might be some help there.   Find out how to
> get to a command line terminal display, and learn the basics of how to
> search for and do stuff there.   Just as the rest of us with other 'Nix
> related boxes have learnt.
>
> (ls /dev/ttyUSB* for example will list the real existing ports on a
> debian/ubuntu based Linux system.)
>
> dave at G0WBX-Dell-System-XPS-L502X ~ $ ls /dev/ttyUSB*
> /dev/ttyUSB0  /dev/ttyUSB1  /dev/ttyUSB2  /dev/ttyUSB3
>
> That is on my Linux Mint box, but Mac's / BSD's etc will almost certainly
> have something similar.  "ls /dev/tty.*"  As one website I found
> indicates...  Not having a mac here, I cant test that.
>
> Also, as Randy said, steer clear of clone chip-sets.  ONLY buy stuff like
> that from authorised resellers, not eBay.  Disclaimer!  I have had good
> genuine stuff from eBay, but I've also had a lot of clone rubbish.  (I did
> have one chip that was physically marked up with the FTDI logo and part
> number etc, but when connected to a computer, it announced itself as a
> Prolific chip!  I felt sorry for the seller, who was non technical, just
> acting as a re-seller themselves.  We figured out he had over a thousand
> fake devices.  He was not happy, but apologised gave me a full refund
> without asking, and took the devices back.   For that alone I gave him good
> feedback.)
>
> Yes, it'll probably cost more from DigiKey or ???   But you'll know you
> have the "Genuine" article, and if it proves otherwise, you can return
> it.    "Silicon Labs" (SiLabs) devices are good too.   Linux recognises
> them OK, I have no idea regarding Mac OS's.
>
> It has to be said though, that a lot of the current clones are actually
> quite functional, unless you want to do something special, like re-assign
> the I/O pins, as you are supposed to be able to do with FTDI parts.   (A
> useful feature, for radio programming leads.)
>
> Lastly, don't trust pre-made leads from eBay.  Again, I'm sure there are
> good ones, but again I've also found via others experiences, that there is
> a lot of stuff there is wired wrong, & very wrong at times!   (Mind you,
> some of the radio manuals are very misleading in this respect too.)
>
> Best if possible to build your own programming cables.   It's not
> difficult at all, it just takes a little time to learn about it, and build
> and test etc.   But, in the long term, you can then build/adapt a cable "on
> the fly" when needed.
>
> 73 and Happy New Year to All of the Chirp team.
>
> Dave G0WBX.
>
>
>
> On 31/12/17 20:00, chirp_users-request at intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 12:35:30 -0500
> From: Randy Elliott <ve3jpu at me.com> <ve3jpu at me.com>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] CHIRP and Mac High Sierra
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com> <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> Message-ID: <4543A440-314F-44B8-9641-92226A46E796 at me.com> <4543A440-314F-44B8-9641-92226A46E796 at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Hi Tip
>
> First off, don't let your PC buddy's steer you off track. Using a Mac is not an issue. I have 2 iMacs and 1 Mac book, one of the iMacs and the Mac Book is 11 years old and still going strong. I use Chirp on them all the time.
> Make sure the USB to serial adapter has a legitimate chip set in it and not some Chinese rip off. Personally I use adapters with the FTDI chip set in them, but Prolific chip set are equally as good.
> The only issue I can see you "might" have is the fact that you up-graded to High Sierra, but I'm not sure about that. I have held off up-grading my newer iMac so far.
> Check the web site of the 2 chip set manufacturers I mentioned above, to see if their drivers are compatible with High Sierra.
> Hope this helps
>
> 73 Randy VE3JPU
>
>
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