[chirp_users] Template & MediaWiki

Drew Einhorn drew.einhorn at gmail.com
Mon Mar 13 00:13:51 PDT 2017


Mike,

Obviously, you have a lot of relevant experience. Before even trying to
understand your suggestions I am going to have to google things like "CARLA
region sets" and "GitHub templates".

Even though it's my idea. I'm not sure implementing it is worth the
trouble. Especially, since someone said the "Duplex off" does not work on
most radios. If it's true it's a show stopper.

But, it sounds like you are saying if you use the right templating tools it
may not be that much trouble.

I don't want to think about the phrase "infinite number of use cases". I
have enough trouble with just one.

I suggested MediaWiki as a possibility because I know it can handle
crowdsourcing tables that describe license, region, organization,
frequency, modes, etc.

I've never looked at the parts of GitHub you are discussing. Googling
"github templates" returns a whole lot of stuff that does not appear to be
what you are talking about.

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 10:38 PM M Noivad <noivad at mac.com> wrote:

From: Drew Einhorn <drew.einhorn at gmail.com>

The point is to make it easier for licensed folks to avoid mistakes that
violate the law, not to make it impossible for folks who intend to violate
the law.

It's easy to accidentally press the TX button. I would prefer to easily
configure the radio to limit the damages. Duplex off is nice. But, I'd
prefer to set my country to US and license to Amateur Technician and
automatically have Duplex set correctly for all frequencies outside the
amateur bands.


From: John Wilkerson <jl_wilkerson at att.net>

The suggestions should be posted at the Chirp website, if you'd ever
want them considered.


If sounds like you’re requesting more of an additive template system with
importable sets of preference templates based on
license/region/organization that only overwrite specified fields, or open a
new document with those fields set. This would allow you to save different
presets in groups for different use cases/clients as well as combine sets
(with the latest template added taking precedence). For instance that would
allow a person to start with a “Technician,” “Extra,” template overlay a
“CARLA region set” of channels, and then import their groups sets.
Numerical collisions could either automatically add to the end or give the
user a remap to # option per channel or per group. That system could be
group sourced, and maintain the flexibility for an infinite number of use
cases.

From: David <weather at lightingunlimited.com>

What is MediaWiki?


From: Drew Einhorn <drew.einhorn at gmail.com>

MediaWiki is the very powerful wiki software that runs the Wikipedia and
many other well-known wikis. It is not the easiest to work with, but it can
do just about anything wiki related, and do it well. Casual users are
frequently overwhelmed by its complexity. So, it is often not the best
choice.



I’ve been running a MediaWiki installation for over 10 years now. While
MediaWiki is great for crowdsource, for file exchange, security & safety
can be problematic. Instead I would probably crowdsource templates,
suggested above, on github.

 For crowdsourced information, MediaWiki is great. Setup complexity is
dependent on your server environment. For some it’s as simple as
downloading a package and running the setup wizard, while for others it’s
compiling from source, etc. If you need advice, I’d be happy to help.


Thanks for Chirp.

Mike
KF6FGE
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