[chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 103, Issue 6

Eric Chopin echopin27 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 7 23:15:03 PDT 2017


Lat+Lon..vs UTM
We use UTM in our Search And Rescue operations. It is more accurate for
pinpointing specific targets than Lat/Lon is.....especially when locating
subjects (people).

73's
Eric
VE7ECJ

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>    1. Re: Lat + Long => WW Locator (Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF)
>    2. Re: [Non-DoD Source] Re:  Lat + Long => WW Locator
>       (Bisdorf, Paul L Jr CIV USARMY CESWT (US))
>    3. Re: Lat + Long => WW Locator (Kenneth L. Bechtel, II)
>    4. Re: Lat + Long => WW Locator (Bruce Harper)
>    5. Re: Lat + Long => WW Locator (Martin Kratoska)
>    6. Re: Lat + Long => WW Locator (Patrick Brown)
>    7. No Data (John Laiosa)
>    8. Re: No Data (Jim Unroe)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:11:58 -0400 (EDT)
> From: "Nigel A. Gunn  G8IFF/W8IFF" <nigel at ngunn.net>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> Message-ID: <1566243380.216087.1499368318248 at email.1and1.com>
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> In which country. I've never seen UTM before.
>
>
> > On 06 July 2017 at 13:25 "Kenneth L. Bechtel, II" <
> kbechtel at teamanti-virus.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Just to put it out there, many services, such as Search and Rescue use
> UTM,
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 19:21:39 +0000
> From: "Bisdorf, Paul L Jr CIV USARMY CESWT (US)"
>         <Paul.Bisdorf at usace.army.mil>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] [Non-DoD Source] Re:  Lat + Long => WW
>         Locator
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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> UTM, or Universal Transverse Mercator, has been in wide use by the
> military for many years.  Of late, it has been largely supplanted by the
> Military Grid Reference System, which retains the same grid system, but
> uses naming conventions that are much more user friendly.  NATO uses both,
> but MGRS is far more prevalent, and will eventually completely replace UTM.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com [mailto:
> chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Nigel A. Gunn
> G8IFF/W8IFF
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 2:12 PM
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
>
> In which country. I've never seen UTM before.
>
>
> > On 06 July 2017 at 13:25 "Kenneth L. Bechtel, II" <
> kbechtel at teamanti-virus.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Just to put it out there, many services, such as Search and Rescue use
> UTM,
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:25:11 -0400
> From: "Kenneth L. Bechtel, II" <kbechtel at teamanti-virus.org>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
> To: "'Discussion of CHIRP'" <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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> UTM was invented by the military and has been adopted by ground search
> teams
> worldwide, based on the ability to go to a 1M square.  Air and Sea SAR
> still
> use LAT LONG due to the larger scale operations and areas.  I specifically
> am in the states.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com
> [mailto:chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Nigel A.
> Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF
> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:12 PM
> To: Discussion of CHIRP
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
>
> In which country. I've never seen UTM before.
>
>
> > On 06 July 2017 at 13:25 "Kenneth L. Bechtel, II"
> <kbechtel at teamanti-virus.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Just to put it out there, many services, such as Search and Rescue use
> > UTM,
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:25:45 -0400
> From: Bruce Harper <brucebharper at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Nigel wrote:
>
> In which country. I've never seen UTM before.
> >
> >
> > > On 06 July 2017 at 13:25 "Kenneth L. Bechtel, II" <
> > kbechtel at teamanti-virus.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Just to put it out there, many services, such as Search and Rescue use
> > UTM,
> >
>
> ?Universal Transverse Mercator, which divides the entire earth into a grid.
> However, at least in parts of the United States, many SAR groups are
> shifting to using the United States National Grid (USNG) system, which is
> what the Federal Emergency Management Agency uses.
>
> Bruce in Blacksburg
>
> ---
>
> Bruce B. Harper
>
> 2nd Lt. Recruitment and Retention
>
> Search Team Leader/Public Information Officer
>
> Southwest Virginia Mountain Rescue Group
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> http://swvamrg.blacksburgrescue.org/
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 22:53:20 +0200
> From: Martin Kratoska <martin at ok1rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
> To: chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
> Message-ID: <0e7d9bd3-cf69-d2fd-0e0f-b901ebd3df35 at ok1rr.com>
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> I am possibly in wrong forum.
>
> I am a ham radio operator (call sign OK1RR) for 50 years, active
> primarily on CW (Morse Telegraphy). Now I should be a new owner of a
> Kenwood VHF/UHF Transceiver which I plan to use for talking to local
> friends, possibly using a repeater. Also, frequencies outside of Ham
> Radio bands are out of scope. Anyway, local roundups are quite marginal
> for me, my hobby is and will remain Morse Telegraphy and contacts to
> rare remote places (for hams who knows what 'country', 'DXCC' means - I
> have 345 DXCC countries confirmed).
>
> Anyway, Lat/Long is for me not a problem. I wanted to say that for ham
> radio operators in Europe is more convenient to use the WW Locator...
>
> My apologies to freaks of Search and Rescue services, military etc. I am
> not keen of these things and never will be due to lack of interest.
>
> Regards,
>
> Martin
> (Prague, Czech)
>
> Dne 6.7.2017 v 19:25 Kenneth L. Bechtel, II napsal(a):
> > Just to put it out there, many services, such as Search and Rescue use
> UTM,
> > so agreeing on a standard is a good thing.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com
> > [mailto:chirp_users-bounces at intrepid.danplanet.com] On Behalf Of Martin
> > Kratoska
> > Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 1:10 PM
> > To: chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
> > Subject: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
> >
> > Esteemed reflectees,
> >
> > here is my humble suggestion:
> >
> > use WW Locator (ie. JO70FB) everywhere, where geographical coordinates
> (Lat,
> > Long) are requested. We in EU using mostly WW Locator for such purposes,
> > some guys are not comfortable with coordinates...
> >
> > 73,
> > Martin, OK1RR
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 18:58:34 -0700
> From: Patrick Brown <n7fhb at wickenburg.net>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Lat + Long => WW Locator
> To: chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
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> USA ,Yavapai Co. AZ
>
>    Patrick Brown  YCSRT 3213
>
>        N7FHB Wilhoit
>       145.350 Wildflower
>       SYCSRT TEAM Manager
>       http://ycsrt.org
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> T.E.A.M = Together Everyone Accomplishes More
>
> On 7/6/2017 12:11 PM, Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF wrote:
> > In which country. I've never seen UTM before.
> >
> >
> >> On 06 July 2017 at 13:25 "Kenneth L. Bechtel, II" <
> kbechtel at teamanti-virus.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Just to put it out there, many services, such as Search and Rescue use
> UTM,
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2017 02:22:40 +0000
> From: John Laiosa <jlaiosa at gmail.com>
> Subject: [chirp_users] No Data
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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> After multiple failures with the Mac, I decides to use my work Windows
> laptop.  Got everything setup and working.  However when I upload from the
> radio the spread sheet is empty. The radio indicates it is "waiting" and
> beeps when it is done, but there is nothing on the spread sheet.  I tried
> uploading to the radio and that did not work either. It appears if the data
> rate and/or the connection is not correct. What I am missing?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> John N1BSO
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 22:54:04 -0400
> From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] No Data
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:22 PM, John Laiosa <jlaiosa at gmail.com> wrote:
> > After multiple failures with the Mac, I decides to use my work Windows
> > laptop.  Got everything setup and working.  However when I upload from
> the
> > radio the spread sheet is empty. The radio indicates it is "waiting" and
> > beeps when it is done, but there is nothing on the spread sheet.  I tried
> > uploading to the radio and that did not work either. It appears if the
> data
> > rate and/or the connection is not correct. What I am missing?
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> >
> > John N1BSO
>
> You must "download" from the radio to CHIRP first.
>
> Also, if you programming cable has a counterfeit Prolific
> USB-to-Serial chip, then you must download, install and select the
> older Prolific v3.2.0.0 device driver because the one that is
> automatically installed by Windows is intentionally incompatible.
>
> http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Drivers.php
>
> Jim
>
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