[chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 98, Issue 2

Thu Feb 2 13:20:03 PST 2017

Rugged 5R & Baofeng 5R are identical.
I have exported the memories to a csv and pasted and uploaded to a uv5r with
no issues
Steve

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Rugged vs Baoffeng (Jim Unroe)
   2. Re: Rugged vs Baoffeng (Mark H. Harris)
   3. Re: Rugged vs Baofeng (Dave Sunde)
   4. Re: Rugged vs. Baofeng (John LaMartina)
   5. Re: Rugged vs Baoffeng (Jim Unroe)
   6. Re: help importing file (Jeff Widen)
   7. Re: Rugged vs Baoffeng (John Wilkerson)
   8. Re: help importing file (Benton)
   9. Re: Rugged vs Baoffeng (Mark H. Harris)
  10. Re: help importing file (Jeff Widen)
  11. Re: help importing file (Jim Unroe)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 15:02:56 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Rugged vs Baoffeng
To: dbarlow_2000 at yahoo.com, 	Discussion of CHIRP
	<chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 1:07 PM, dbarlow_2000--- via chirp_users
<chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
> I have a Rugged RH-5R that looks to be the same radio as a Baoffeng
UV-5X3.
> What I would like to know are they the same? and and if so can I use 
> chirp on my Rugged? as it is not listed on the support list.
>
> Thanks

Do you know where I can get a copy of the "factory" programming software?

Jim

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 14:14:37 -0600
From: "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Rugged vs Baoffeng
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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The thing about clones is that you can never be sure how "cloned" they are.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 1:07 PM, dbarlow_2000--- via chirp_users 
> <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
> > I have a Rugged RH-5R that looks to be the same radio as a Baoffeng
> UV-5X3.
> > What I would like to know are they the same? and and if so can I use
> chirp
> > on my Rugged? as it is not listed on the support list.
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Do you know where I can get a copy of the "factory" programming software?
>
> Jim
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 12:30:52 -0800
From: "Dave Sunde" <dsunde at frontier.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Rugged vs Baofeng
To: <dbarlow_2000 at yahoo.com>,	"'Discussion of CHIRP'"
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The manual is here:

https://www.ruggedradios.com/PDF/Rugged-RH-5R-manual.pdf

Dave Sunde

D&G Enterprises

Senior Engineer

1-509-486-1547  Home Office

1-206-930-3887  Cell Phone

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Subject: [chirp_users] Rugged vs Baoffeng

I have a Rugged RH-5R that looks to be the same radio as a Baoffeng UV-5X3.
What I would like to know are they the same? and and if so can I use chirp
on my Rugged? as it is not listed on the support list.

Thanks

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 16:43:56 -0500
From: "John LaMartina" <JohnLa at usa.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Rugged vs. Baofeng
To: "'Discussion of CHIRP'" <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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Dave,
Based on the manual, the radio is a Dual Band (where the 5X3 is 3 band).
Also, the ABR (backlight display time) maxes out at 5 seconds, where newer
models time out at 10.
Based on the manual, it appears to be a base line Baofeng UV5R.

John
http://www.miklor.com

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To: dbarlow_2000 at yahoo.com; 'Discussion of CHIRP'
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Rugged vs Baofeng

The manual is here:

https://www.ruggedradios.com/PDF/Rugged-RH-5R-manual.pdf

Dave Sunde

D&G Enterprises

Senior Engineer

1-509-486-1547  Home Office

1-206-930-3887  Cell Phone

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Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 10:07 AM
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Subject: [chirp_users] Rugged vs Baoffeng

I have a Rugged RH-5R that looks to be the same radio as a Baoffeng UV-5X3.
What I would like to know are they the same? and and if so can I use chirp
on my Rugged? as it is not listed on the support list.

Thanks

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 17:14:47 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Rugged vs Baoffeng
To: dbarlow_2000 at yahoo.com, 	Discussion of CHIRP
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On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 1:07 PM, dbarlow_2000--- via chirp_users
<chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
> I have a Rugged RH-5R that looks to be the same radio as a Baoffeng
UV-5X3.
> What I would like to know are they the same? and and if so can I use 
> chirp on my Rugged? as it is not listed on the support list.
>
> Thanks

When visiting the Rugged Radio web site, it is easy to see that the radio
shown in the pictures was programmed using CHIRP. How can I tell, you ask?
It is programmed with 7 character channel names. The Baofeng factory
software only allows 6 character channel names.

Then on the Rugged Radio software page, the RH-5R has links for Windows,
Linus and Mac OS X programming software. The Baofeng factory software is for
Windows only. All three links point directly to very old CHIRP daily
versions (20150707).

My guess is that the RH-5R can be programmed using the latest CHIRP daily
build by selecting Vendor: Baofeng and Model: UV-5R. Confirm this and I will
add it to the list of of more then 41 UV-5R variants that use these same
selections.

http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Baofeng_UV5R_Variants

Jim

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 00:45:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jeff Widen <dftd3 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] help importing file
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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Bill

I believe what you say is true, but you don't have to change the file you
downloaded from the radio. You can upload a different file, one of the stock
files in chirp or one you have created.

Jeff
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On Wed, 2/1/17, penningsbill at gmail.com <penningsbill at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] help importing file
 To: "Discussion of CHIRP" <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
 Date: Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 9:25 AM

 #yiv2332876555
 v\00003a* {
 }

 I have not used it yet but I believe that you have to  export first from
your radio to your computer. That  establish a contact between the computer
and your radio.
 Then change the spreadsheet, that is a part of Chirp,?enter  all your
frequencies and then import that spreadsheet into  your radio. Please let me
know if that works as I have  ordered a beaufang from China and I will have
to do that  too.
 ?
 Bill VE7BMQ

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 From:
 Judith
 Barrett
 Date:
 01/02/2017 9:17:20 AM
 To: Discussion
 of CHIRP
 Subject: Re:
 [chirp_users] help importing file
 ?
 Just a clarification because I'm doing
 the same thing - after I copy/paste into the radio csv file,  and save it
as a csv file, then I import that csv file using  Chirp. Am I importing to
Chirp or using Chirp to import to  the radio?

 On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at
 6:10 AM, Amnon Zohar <amnon.zohar at gmail.com>
 wrote:

 Do not create the frequency list in exel!
 Download the image from the radio export it to csv file  , edit it using
exel and import that file.

 ?????? 1
 ????' 2017 13:06,? "Jeff Widen via
 chirp_users" <chirp_users at intrepid.
 danplanet.com> ???:

 I have saved a frequency list in excel as a csv  file. When I try to import
it into Chirp it says it does not  recognize the file type. I just
downloaded Chirp so I have  the most current version for windows. Any help
would be  appreciated.

 Jeff
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2017 21:06:18 -0500
From: John Wilkerson <jl_wilkerson at att.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Rugged vs Baoffeng
To: dbarlow_2000 at yahoo.com,	Discussion of CHIRP
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Looking at the manual, it does not have any of the extended features the
UV-5X3 has.  I'd say, it is simply a repackaged UV-5R

On 2/1/2017 13:07, dbarlow_2000--- via chirp_users wrote:
> I have a Rugged RH-5R that looks to be the same radio as a Baoffeng 
> UV-5X3. What I would like to know are they the same? and and if so can 
> I use chirp on my Rugged? as it is not listed on the support list.
>
> Thanks
>
>

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2017 19:28:26 -0800
From: Benton <benton at siletzbay.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] help importing file
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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On 2017-02-01 09:31, Tom Hayward wrote:

> If you share the file, I can point out why it's unrecognized. It most 
> likely does not have the column header/labels Chirp is looking for, or 
> the data in those columns is of the wrong format.

'Back in the day' I thought one of the issues with using Excel to process
csv file and Chirp was that Excel tended to truncate trailing commas for
empty fields whereas Chirp was a stickler for those being in place to make
the columns line up correctly.

Am I misremembering or have either of those issues been improved?

Benton 1feb17
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KF7QLP
benton at siletzbay.com

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 02:30:34 -0600
From: "Mark H. Harris" <harrismh777 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Rugged vs Baoffeng
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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Yeah,  and the problem really is whether the CHIRP software will be
compatible with the radio's firmware;  and there is always the possibility
that the radio will be damaged or bricked.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 8:06 PM, John Wilkerson <jl_wilkerson at att.net> wrote:

> Looking at the manual, it does not have any of the extended features 
> the
> UV-5X3 has.  I'd say, it is simply a repackaged UV-5R
>
> On 2/1/2017 13:07, dbarlow_2000--- via chirp_users wrote:
>
> I have a Rugged RH-5R that looks to be the same radio as a Baoffeng 
> UV-5X3. What I would like to know are they the same? and and if so can 
> I use chirp on my Rugged? as it is not listed on the support list.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 08:55:20 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jeff Widen <dftd3 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] help importing file
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
Message-ID: <909413328.90358.1486025720348 at mail.yahoo.com>
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I have tried changing the column headers to match those in the stock files.
When I do it seems to recognize the file but it then says no channels found.
If I change the location column back to channel it does not recognize the
file. Why can't find any channels? Does the order of the column matter?
Here are the column headers:
Location	Frequency	    Offset	Duplex	Mode	Name	Show
Name	Tone Mode  	Tone	  DCS	Tx Power	    Skip
Step
Thanks for the help,
Jeff
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On Wed, 2/1/17, Benton <benton at siletzbay.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [chirp_users] help importing file
 To: "Discussion of CHIRP" <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
 Date: Wednesday, February 1, 2017, 7:28 PM

 On 2017-02-01 09:31, Tom
 Hayward wrote:

 > If you
 share the file, I can point out why it's unrecognized.
 It most
 > likely does not have the column
 header/labels Chirp is looking for, or
 >
 the data in those columns is of the wrong format.

 'Back in the day' I
 thought one of the issues with using Excel to  process csv file and Chirp
was that Excel  tended to truncate trailing  commas for  empty fields
whereas Chirp was a stickler for those being in

 place to make the columns line up
 correctly.

 Am I
 misremembering or have either of those issues been  improved?

 Benton 1feb17
 --
 KF7QLP
 benton at siletzbay.com
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 05:12:34 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] help importing file
To: Jeff Widen <dftd3 at yahoo.com>, 	Discussion of CHIRP
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On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 3:55 AM, Jeff Widen via chirp_users
<chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
> I have tried changing the column headers to match those in the stock
files. When I do it seems to recognize the file but it then says no channels
found. If I change the location column back to channel it does not recognize
the file. Why can't find any channels? Does the order of the column matter?
> Here are the column headers:
> Location        Frequency           Offset      Duplex  Mode    Name
Show Name       Tone Mode       Tone      DCS   Tx Power            Skip
Step
> Thanks for the help,
> Jeff

Once again, if you would share (attach) your CSV file, Tom or I (and likely
many others) could tell you exactly what is wrong.

Jim

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