[chirp_users] Baofeng D901 DMR HT

Kenneth Strom VA3KRS
Mon Nov 21 12:45:37 PST 2016


Does anyone have the Factory Original Flash memory File for the Wouxun D901 DMR HT?  My friends HT is still locked up.  I cannot emphasize more to when buying any radio to reset it, save that File labelled Factory Original Settings, and work then using that File after saving it.  He did not (along with many others).


Interesting comments on the Baofeng BF 888s 16-Channel UHF HTs.  I owned one briefly, did not have a programming issue with it using their Factory software.  Also I used the RT Systems USB-K4Y Cable which works flawlessly.  Those Generic Fake Prolific Cables seem to be hit or miss.  You must make sure Windows does not automatically search its Database for the real Prolific Chip Driver.  So have your supplied CD disk handy and install it ONLY.  Also, be careful Windows during its daily Windows Update does not automatically reinstall the real Prolific driver while you are not looking.  Happened to me once, very annoying.


Kenneth Strom  VA3KRS




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   1. Re: Hello and Confusion (Jim Unroe)
   2. LYT Q-18 (dursr at sasktel.net)
   3. Re: Hello and Confusion (Jeff Butler)
   4. Re: Hello and Confusion (Jim Unroe)
   5. Re: Baofeng 888s cable issue (Garth Robinson)
   6. Re: Baofeng 888s cable issue (Jim Unroe)
   7. Re: Baofeng 888s cable issue (Kent Eichstaedt)
   8. Re: Baofeng 888s cable issue (Jim Unroe)
   9. Re: Baofeng 888s cable issue (Jardy Dawson)
  10. Re: Baofeng 888s cable issue (kc6iih at aol.com)
  11. Re: Baofeng 888s cable issue (Jim Unroe)
  12. Re: Baofeng 888s cable issue (David Ranch)
  13. Re: Baofeng 888s cable issue (Amnon Zohar)
  14. Re: Baofeng 888s cable issue (Amnon Zohar)
  15. Re: Baofeng 888s cable issue (jl_wilkerson at att.net)
  16. Unknown clones (dursr at sasktel.net)
  17. Re: Unknown clones (Jim Unroe)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 15:32:08 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Hello and Confusion
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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Hi Jeff,

> Just landed at Chirp. Using it for programming the Baofend BF888s.  We use
> about 30 of them at a sporting event.   I was intending to make some
> programming changes but find that some of the radios will enter programming
> mode and some will not.  Wondering if you have heard of this before?

Yes. I have heard of this before. This won't be easy to resolve unless
the owners of one of these radios that won't enter programming mode
would help to determine what is different about them. So far there
hasn't been much assistance in that regard. The only other way would
be to get one of these radios into the hands of a developer so the
issue can be studied directly.

Do all of the radios program OK with the same Baofeng software?
If they require a different software, which software?

Jim KC9HI


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 14:40:01 -0600
From: dursr at sasktel.net
Subject: [chirp_users] LYT Q-18
To: chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
Message-ID: <20161120144001.pzz7n0wfswsoswws at webmail.sasktel.net>
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It seems I have two obscure radios. ?Has anyone encountered the LYT Q-18? ?Perhaps it is a clone of a supported radio?
?
Ron
?


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 17:36:39 -0500
From: "Jeff Butler" <jeffbutler at cogeco.ca>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Hello and Confusion
To: "'Discussion of CHIRP'" <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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Hi Jim:
I have all the radios with me.  They were all bought together just weeks
ago.  I will try backdating my USB driver to the one recommended and then
give it a try.  I have only tried CHIRPS daily at this time but might try
the BAOfeng software to see if it makes a difference.

Cheers
Jeff
VE3JBX

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Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Hello and Confusion

Hi Jeff,

> Just landed at Chirp. Using it for programming the Baofend BF888s.  We use
> about 30 of them at a sporting event.   I was intending to make some
> programming changes but find that some of the radios will enter
> programming mode and some will not.  Wondering if you have heard of this
before?

Yes. I have heard of this before. This won't be easy to resolve unless the
owners of one of these radios that won't enter programming mode would help
to determine what is different about them. So far there hasn't been much
assistance in that regard. The only other way would be to get one of these
radios into the hands of a developer so the issue can be studied directly.

Do all of the radios program OK with the same Baofeng software?
If they require a different software, which software?

Jim KC9HI
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 17:53:06 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Hello and Confusion
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Jeff Butler <jeffbutler at cogeco.ca> wrote:
> Hi Jim:
> I have all the radios with me.  They were all bought together just weeks
> ago.  I will try backdating my USB driver to the one recommended and then
> give it a try.  I have only tried CHIRPS daily at this time but might try
> the BAOfeng software to see if it makes a difference.
>
> Cheers
> Jeff
> VE3JBX

Great. It will help to know if the same radios fail with the Baofeng
software or is the same software does them all.

Jim


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 16:37:51 +1300
From: Garth Robinson <soundtek at vodafone.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
Message-ID: <cf21d45f-24cc-f038-0208-1a8589b7c198 at vodafone.co.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Hi Jim,

..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that
there is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the
Baofeng cables.

Garth. zl1tue  ..... an still shakin'


On 11/19/2016 11:14 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Garth Robinson <soundtek at vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
>> Hi, s'cuse me butting in but.......
>>
>>          will these work under windoze 10 ?
>>
>> I noticed that the webpage only mentioned xp, vista, 2000, win7 etc.  in
>> other words do you still have to use the backdated driver?
>>
>>
>> Garth,  zl1 tue
>>
> When using a Prolific type chip based programming cable with Windows,
> you might as well count on using the backdated driver because the
> majority of these chips are counterfeit. The device driver auto
> installed by Windows has been incompatible with counterfeit chips
> since around 2008. The backdated driver will work no matter if the
> chip is genuine or not.
>
> V2.0.2.1: Windows XP
> V3.2.0.0: Windows Vista, 2000, 7, 8.x and 10
>
> Both drivers can be obtained from links on the miklor.com website.
>
> Jim KC9HI
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 09:19:28 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Garth Robinson
<soundtek at vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> ..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there
> is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
>
> Garth. zl1tue  ..... an still shakin'

About 4 years ago I downloaded every version of Prolific driver for
Windows I could find. I installed them one by one from the most recent
to the oldest to find out exactly which driver was the absolute latest
that would work with a counterfeit Prolific chip. The answer was
v3.3.2.105. But although this driver works great with CHIRP, it is
incompatible with most programming software written for Chinese
radios.

So my testing continued. It wasn't until I got to the Prolific
v3.2.0.0 driver that it would work with all of my programming
software. And it works with the latest Prolific chips as well.

As you can see from the attached screen capture, I have 4 Prolific
drivers installed in my Windows 7 64-bit computer. I can switch
between these driver versions at will to determine if a Prolific type
chip is genuine.

So if you have a programming cable with a Prolfic type chip, there is
no need to test if it is genuine or not. Genuine Prolific chips are
rare. Out of some 20+ Prolific type chip based cables that I have
here, I only have 2 that know are genuine.

One came from a now out of business dealer. The description stated
that it contained a genuine Prolfic chip. It cost $10 more than the
non-genuine version that they also sold. The second came with (but was
purchased separately) a Wouxun KG-UV6D V2 radio that I purchased from
a USA dealer.

So if you run Windows XP or above, the non-destructive test to
determine if the Prolific type chip in your programming cable is
genuine is pretty simple. Plug it into the USB port and wait for the
latest Prolific driver to install. Then try it out. then if it works
(not likely) it has a genuine Prolific chip. If it doesn't work (very
likely) it has a counterfeit chip.

But if you already have the programming cable, it is too late to worry
about which type of Prolific chip is in it (genuine or counterfeit).
Just download, install and select the older Prolific driver (it works
for both).

v2.0.2.1 Windows XP
v3.2.0.0 Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10

If the idea is to avoid the hassle of dealing with counterfeit
Prolific type chips, then note the following.

A genuine Baofeng (the radio manufacturer based in China) programming
cable is virtually guaranteed to have a counterfeit Prolific chip.

If the listing states that the programming cable only works with older
versions of Windows or states that it does not work with the latest
versions of Windows, it is a good bet that is will have a counterfeit
Prolific chip. The same goes for listings where there is no mention of
the chip the programming cable contains.

So the best thing to do to avoid the driver hassle is to look for a
cable with an FTDI type chip. Even FTDI chips can be counterfeit, but
even the counterfeit chips currently work with the latest available
device drivers.

Although I mostly use Prolific type chips here, I do have some with
genuine FTDI chips. My source for the last few has been Baofeng Tech
(the radio dealer based in the USA).

Jim KC9HI
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 09:07:15 -0600
From: Kent Eichstaedt <kent.eichstaedt at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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I would suggest buying BaoFeng stuff from BaoFeng Tech (on Amazon) . They
are a US company and will back up their products in the US.  The cable you
need is at
https://www.amazon.com/Authentic-Genuine-Programming-Cable-BaoFeng/dp/B00HUB0ONK/ref=pd_bxgy_107_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GQTCEKK5J4S4NCMP3EH3
 There is also a "red cable" that works but I forgot what brand it is. The
market was flooded with counterfeit chips so the manufacturers changed the
chip and programming so that the old chips don't work. Expect to pay $20+.
The $10 ones probably won't work without finding an old driver.  I used the
BF-Tech one with Windows 10 a few days ago with CHIRP and it worked fine,
no problems.  One tip: CHIRP prompts you to save your setup. When I went to
the saved file (an .img file) and clicked on it, it said "the file is
corrupted".  After a couple of frustrating hours I tried opening the saved
file by clicking on 'file', 'open' in the CHIRP program, and the saved
image file opened OK.






On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Garth Robinson <soundtek at vodafone.co.nz>
wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
> ..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that
> there is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng
> cables.
>
> Garth. zl1tue  ..... an still shakin'
>
> On 11/19/2016 11:14 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Garth Robinson <soundtek at vodafone.co.nz> <soundtek at vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
>
> Hi, s'cuse me butting in but.......
>
>         will these work under windoze 10 ?
>
> I noticed that the webpage only mentioned xp, vista, 2000, win7 etc.  in
> other words do you still have to use the backdated driver?
>
>
> Garth,  zl1 tue
>
>
> When using a Prolific type chip based programming cable with Windows,
> you might as well count on using the backdated driver because the
> majority of these chips are counterfeit. The device driver auto
> installed by Windows has been incompatible with counterfeit chips
> since around 2008. The backdated driver will work no matter if the
> chip is genuine or not.
>
> V2.0.2.1: Windows XP
> V3.2.0.0: Windows Vista, 2000, 7, 8.x and 10
>
> Both drivers can be obtained from links on the miklor.com website.
>
> Jim KC9HI
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 10:23:15 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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Kent,

> problems.  One tip: CHIRP prompts you to save your setup. When I went to the
> saved file (an .img file) and clicked on it, it said "the file is
> corrupted".  After a couple of frustrating hours I tried opening the saved
> file by clicking on 'file', 'open' in the CHIRP program, and the saved image
> file opened OK.

By default Windows associates the ".img" extension with CD burning
software. So when you double-click a saved CHIRP Radio Images (*.img)
file, Window tries to load it into that CD burning software (for which
that software the file being loaded is truly corrupt). You either have
to load it from within CHIRP (like you did) or change the association
of the ".img" extension to CHIRP so you can double-click on it to load
it into CHIRP by default (but then you won't be able to double-click
on CD "image" files) to automatically load then into the CD burning
software.

Jim KC9HI


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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 07:46:32 -0800
From: Jardy Dawson <jardy72 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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Jim,

I am like you, having numerous cables that have the fake chips in them.  Once I learned what to do with them, through you and the Miklor site, it only takes about 2 minutes to roll back the driver, if I have to.  When Windows 8 first came out, I spent 3-4 months fighting with cables not working.  After learning what to do, I don't worry about it anymore.  The nice thing is, is that I have cables for many different radios, but once you get the right driver installed, it works for all of them.  I am not going to go out and spend money I don't have to, just to save me 2 minutes of work.  I also do not have the skill set, tools, or time, to make my own cables out of earphones and some other chip.

I really do appreciate your testing the theories of why the cables are 'not compatible with Windows 10', etc. and coming up with the proper solution.  It is just NOT THAT HARD TO DEAL WITH, when you know what to do.

Thank you.

Jardy Dawson
WA7JRD Ham Radio

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On Nov 21, 2016, at 06:19, Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Garth Robinson
<soundtek at vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> ..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there
> is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
>
> Garth. zl1tue  ..... an still shakin'

About 4 years ago I downloaded every version of Prolific driver for
Windows I could find. I installed them one by one from the most recent
to the oldest to find out exactly which driver was the absolute latest
that would work with a counterfeit Prolific chip. The answer was
v3.3.2.105. But although this driver works great with CHIRP, it is
incompatible with most programming software written for Chinese
radios.

So my testing continued. It wasn't until I got to the Prolific
v3.2.0.0 driver that it would work with all of my programming
software. And it works with the latest Prolific chips as well.

As you can see from the attached screen capture, I have 4 Prolific
drivers installed in my Windows 7 64-bit computer. I can switch
between these driver versions at will to determine if a Prolific type
chip is genuine.

So if you have a programming cable with a Prolfic type chip, there is
no need to test if it is genuine or not. Genuine Prolific chips are
rare. Out of some 20+ Prolific type chip based cables that I have
here, I only have 2 that know are genuine.

One came from a now out of business dealer. The description stated
that it contained a genuine Prolfic chip. It cost $10 more than the
non-genuine version that they also sold. The second came with (but was
purchased separately) a Wouxun KG-UV6D V2 radio that I purchased from
a USA dealer.

So if you run Windows XP or above, the non-destructive test to
determine if the Prolific type chip in your programming cable is
genuine is pretty simple. Plug it into the USB port and wait for the
latest Prolific driver to install. Then try it out. then if it works
(not likely) it has a genuine Prolific chip. If it doesn't work (very
likely) it has a counterfeit chip.

But if you already have the programming cable, it is too late to worry
about which type of Prolific chip is in it (genuine or counterfeit).
Just download, install and select the older Prolific driver (it works
for both).

v2.0.2.1 Windows XP
v3.2.0.0 Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10

If the idea is to avoid the hassle of dealing with counterfeit
Prolific type chips, then note the following.

A genuine Baofeng (the radio manufacturer based in China) programming
cable is virtually guaranteed to have a counterfeit Prolific chip.

If the listing states that the programming cable only works with older
versions of Windows or states that it does not work with the latest
versions of Windows, it is a good bet that is will have a counterfeit
Prolific chip. The same goes for listings where there is no mention of
the chip the programming cable contains.

So the best thing to do to avoid the driver hassle is to look for a
cable with an FTDI type chip. Even FTDI chips can be counterfeit, but
even the counterfeit chips currently work with the latest available
device drivers.

Although I mostly use Prolific type chips here, I do have some with
genuine FTDI chips. My source for the last few has been Baofeng Tech
(the radio dealer based in the USA).

Jim KC9HI
<ProlificDrivers2.jpg>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 10:55:47 -0500
From: kc6iih at aol.com
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
To: chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
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The only cables I buy are from RTSYSTEMS.
They work every time.
Yes they cost more but you go cheap you buy problems .

Jock Soutar KC6IIH
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On Monday, November 21, 2016 Jardy Dawson via chirp_users <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:

Jim,


I am like you, having numerous cables that have the fake chips in them. ?Once I learned what to do with them, through you and the Miklor site, it only takes about 2 minutes to roll back the driver, if I have to. ?When Windows 8 first came out, I spent 3-4 months fighting with cables not working. ?After learning what to do, I don't worry about it anymore. ?The nice thing is, is that I have cables for many different radios, but once you get the right driver installed, it works for all of them. ?I am not going to go out and spend money I don't have to, just to save me 2 minutes of work. ?I also do not have the skill set, tools, or time, to make my own cables out of earphones and some other chip.


I really do appreciate your testing the theories of why the cables are 'not compatible with Windows 10', etc. and coming up with the proper solution. ?It is just NOT THAT HARD TO DEAL WITH, when you know what to do.


Thank you.?


Jardy Dawson

WA7JRD Ham Radio


Message relayed from secret Hillary Clinton server, located in the basement of her house. ?OOPS, you aren't supposed to know that!


On Nov 21, 2016, at 06:19, Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Garth Robinson
<soundtek at vodafone.co.nz> wrote:

Hi Jim,


..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there

is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.


Garth. zl1tue ?..... an still shakin'


About 4 years ago I downloaded every version of Prolific driver for
Windows I could find. I installed them one by one from the most recent
to the oldest to find out exactly which driver was the absolute latest
that would work with a counterfeit Prolific chip. The answer was
v3.3.2.105. But although this driver works great with CHIRP, it is
incompatible with most programming software written for Chinese
radios.

So my testing continued. It wasn't until I got to the Prolific
v3.2.0.0 driver that it would work with all of my programming
software. And it works with the latest Prolific chips as well.

As you can see from the attached screen capture, I have 4 Prolific
drivers installed in my Windows 7 64-bit computer. I can switch
between these driver versions at will to determine if a Prolific type
chip is genuine.

So if you have a programming cable with a Prolfic type chip, there is
no need to test if it is genuine or not. Genuine Prolific chips are
rare. Out of some 20+ Prolific type chip based cables that I have
here, I only have 2 that know are genuine.

One came from a now out of business dealer. The description stated
that it contained a genuine Prolfic chip. It cost $10 more than the
non-genuine version that they also sold. The second came with (but was
purchased separately) a Wouxun KG-UV6D V2 radio that I purchased from
a USA dealer.

So if you run Windows XP or above, the non-destructive test to
determine if the Prolific type chip in your programming cable is
genuine is pretty simple. Plug it into the USB port and wait for the
latest Prolific driver to install. Then try it out. then if it works
(not likely) it has a genuine Prolific chip. If it doesn't work (very
likely) it has a counterfeit chip.

But if you already have the programming cable, it is too late to worry
about which type of Prolific chip is in it (genuine or counterfeit).
Just download, install and select the older Prolific driver (it works
for both).

v2.0.2.1 Windows XP
v3.2.0.0 Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10

If the idea is to avoid the hassle of dealing with counterfeit
Prolific type chips, then note the following.

A genuine Baofeng (the radio manufacturer based in China) programming
cable is virtually guaranteed to have a counterfeit Prolific chip.

If the listing states that the programming cable only works with older
versions of Windows or states that it does not work with the latest
versions of Windows, it is a good bet that is will have a counterfeit
Prolific chip. The same goes for listings where there is no mention of
the chip the programming cable contains.

So the best thing to do to avoid the driver hassle is to look for a
cable with an FTDI type chip. Even FTDI chips can be counterfeit, but
even the counterfeit chips currently work with the latest available
device drivers.

Although I mostly use Prolific type chips here, I do have some with
genuine FTDI chips. My source for the last few has been Baofeng Tech
(the radio dealer based in the USA).

Jim KC9HI

<ProlificDrivers2.jpg>

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 10:58:19 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
To: Jardy Dawson <jardy72 at yahoo.com>,    Discussion of CHIRP
        <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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Since I deal with many radios, I actually prefer the Prolific type
chip. It has the advantage that once a USB port is setup with the
older, compatible with all Prolific chips, driver, I can plug in any
one of my Prolific chip bases programming cables and it will always
have the same COM port assigned to it.

By default, each FTDI based programming cable gets it's own separate
COM port (something else I would have to keep track of). I know there
is a Windows registry hack that can be done so that FTDI cables will
behave the same way, but I haven't bothered since all of my radios
have at least 1 Prolific chip based programming cable and only a very
few radios have FTDI based programming cables.

Jim


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 08:20:17 -0800
From: David Ranch <chirp at trinnet.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
Message-ID: <fc8a9918-c658-646a-d001-cf8c873bf3d5 at trinnet.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"


Great email Jim.  Any chances you can turn this into a FAQ answer on the
Chirp wiki?

--David
KI6ZHD


On 11/21/2016 06:19 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Garth Robinson
> <soundtek at vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> ..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there
>> is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
>>
>> Garth. zl1tue  ..... an still shakin'
> About 4 years ago I downloaded every version of Prolific driver for
> Windows I could find. I installed them one by one from the most recent
> to the oldest to find out exactly which driver was the absolute latest
> that would work with a counterfeit Prolific chip. The answer was
> v3.3.2.105. But although this driver works great with CHIRP, it is
> incompatible with most programming software written for Chinese
> radios.
>
> So my testing continued. It wasn't until I got to the Prolific
> v3.2.0.0 driver that it would work with all of my programming
> software. And it works with the latest Prolific chips as well.
>
> As you can see from the attached screen capture, I have 4 Prolific
> drivers installed in my Windows 7 64-bit computer. I can switch
> between these driver versions at will to determine if a Prolific type
> chip is genuine.
>
> So if you have a programming cable with a Prolfic type chip, there is
> no need to test if it is genuine or not. Genuine Prolific chips are
> rare. Out of some 20+ Prolific type chip based cables that I have
> here, I only have 2 that know are genuine.
>
> One came from a now out of business dealer. The description stated
> that it contained a genuine Prolfic chip. It cost $10 more than the
> non-genuine version that they also sold. The second came with (but was
> purchased separately) a Wouxun KG-UV6D V2 radio that I purchased from
> a USA dealer.
>
> So if you run Windows XP or above, the non-destructive test to
> determine if the Prolific type chip in your programming cable isHey
> genuine is pretty simple. Plug it into the USB port and wait for the
> latest Prolific driver to install. Then try it out. then if it works
> (not likely) it has a genuine Prolific chip. If it doesn't work (very
> likely) it has a counterfeit chip.
>
> But if you already have the programming cable, it is too late to worry
> about which type of Prolific chip is in it (genuine or counterfeit).
> Just download, install and select the older Prolific driver (it works
> for both).
>
> v2.0.2.1 Windows XP
> v3.2.0.0 Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10
>
> If the idea is to avoid the hassle of dealing with counterfeit
> Prolific type chips, then note the following.
>
> A genuine Baofeng (the radio manufacturer based in China) programming
> cable is virtually guaranteed to have a counterfeit Prolific chip.
>
> If the listing states that the programming cable only works with older
> versions of Windows or states that it does not work with the latest
> versions of Windows, it is a good bet that is will have a counterfeit
> Prolific chip. The same goes for listings where there is no mention of
> the chip the programming cable contains.
>
> So the best thing to do to avoid the driver hassle is to look for a
> cable with an FTDI type chip. Even FTDI chips can be counterfeit, but
> even the counterfeit chips currently work with the latest available
> device drivers.
>
> Although I mostly use Prolific type chips here, I do have some with
> genuine FTDI chips. My source for the last few has been Baofeng Tech
> (the radio dealer based in the USA).
>
> Jim KC9HI

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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 18:25:38 +0200
From: Amnon Zohar <amnon.zohar at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
Message-ID:
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I bought cheap no problem.  Price gap worth the risk (to my mind)

?????? 21 ????' 2016 6:22 PM,? "David Ranch" <chirp at trinnet.net> ???:

>
> Great email Jim.  Any chances you can turn this into a FAQ answer on the
> Chirp wiki?
>
> --David
> KI6ZHD
>
>
> On 11/21/2016 06:19 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
>
> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Garth Robinson<soundtek at vodafone.co.nz> <soundtek at vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> ..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there
> is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
>
> Garth. zl1tue  ..... an still shakin'
>
>
> About 4 years ago I downloaded every version of Prolific driver for
> Windows I could find. I installed them one by one from the most recent
> to the oldest to find out exactly which driver was the absolute latest
> that would work with a counterfeit Prolific chip. The answer was
> v3.3.2.105. But although this driver works great with CHIRP, it is
> incompatible with most programming software written for Chinese
> radios.
>
> So my testing continued. It wasn't until I got to the Prolific
> v3.2.0.0 driver that it would work with all of my programming
> software. And it works with the latest Prolific chips as well.
>
> As you can see from the attached screen capture, I have 4 Prolific
> drivers installed in my Windows 7 64-bit computer. I can switch
> between these driver versions at will to determine if a Prolific type
> chip is genuine.
>
> So if you have a programming cable with a Prolfic type chip, there is
> no need to test if it is genuine or not. Genuine Prolific chips are
> rare. Out of some 20+ Prolific type chip based cables that I have
> here, I only have 2 that know are genuine.
>
> One came from a now out of business dealer. The description stated
> that it contained a genuine Prolfic chip. It cost $10 more than the
> non-genuine version that they also sold. The second came with (but was
> purchased separately) a Wouxun KG-UV6D V2 radio that I purchased from
> a USA dealer.
>
> So if you run Windows XP or above, the non-destructive test to
> determine if the Prolific type chip in your programming cable isHey
> genuine is pretty simple. Plug it into the USB port and wait for the
> latest Prolific driver to install. Then try it out. then if it works
> (not likely) it has a genuine Prolific chip. If it doesn't work (very
> likely) it has a counterfeit chip.
>
> But if you already have the programming cable, it is too late to worry
> about which type of Prolific chip is in it (genuine or counterfeit).
> Just download, install and select the older Prolific driver (it works
> for both).
>
> v2.0.2.1 Windows XP
> v3.2.0.0 Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10
>
> If the idea is to avoid the hassle of dealing with counterfeit
> Prolific type chips, then note the following.
>
> A genuine Baofeng (the radio manufacturer based in China) programming
> cable is virtually guaranteed to have a counterfeit Prolific chip.
>
> If the listing states that the programming cable only works with older
> versions of Windows or states that it does not work with the latest
> versions of Windows, it is a good bet that is will have a counterfeit
> Prolific chip. The same goes for listings where there is no mention of
> the chip the programming cable contains.
>
> So the best thing to do to avoid the driver hassle is to look for a
> cable with an FTDI type chip. Even FTDI chips can be counterfeit, but
> even the counterfeit chips currently work with the latest available
> device drivers.
>
> Although I mostly use Prolific type chips here, I do have some with
> genuine FTDI chips. My source for the last few has been Baofeng Tech
> (the radio dealer based in the USA).
>
> Jim KC9HI
>
>
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 18:26:31 +0200
From: Amnon Zohar <amnon.zohar at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
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High price of the "good" cables are actualy a rip off!

?????? 21 ????' 2016 6:25 PM,? "Amnon Zohar" <amnon.zohar at gmail.com> ???:

> I bought cheap no problem.  Price gap worth the risk (to my mind)
>
> ?????? 21 ????' 2016 6:22 PM,? "David Ranch" <chirp at trinnet.net> ???:
>
>>
>> Great email Jim.  Any chances you can turn this into a FAQ answer on the
>> Chirp wiki?
>>
>> --David
>> KI6ZHD
>>
>>
>> On 11/21/2016 06:19 AM, Jim Unroe wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Garth Robinson<soundtek at vodafone.co.nz> <soundtek at vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> ..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there
>> is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.
>>
>> Garth. zl1tue  ..... an still shakin'
>>
>>
>> About 4 years ago I downloaded every version of Prolific driver for
>> Windows I could find. I installed them one by one from the most recent
>> to the oldest to find out exactly which driver was the absolute latest
>> that would work with a counterfeit Prolific chip. The answer was
>> v3.3.2.105. But although this driver works great with CHIRP, it is
>> incompatible with most programming software written for Chinese
>> radios.
>>
>> So my testing continued. It wasn't until I got to the Prolific
>> v3.2.0.0 driver that it would work with all of my programming
>> software. And it works with the latest Prolific chips as well.
>>
>> As you can see from the attached screen capture, I have 4 Prolific
>> drivers installed in my Windows 7 64-bit computer. I can switch
>> between these driver versions at will to determine if a Prolific type
>> chip is genuine.
>>
>> So if you have a programming cable with a Prolfic type chip, there is
>> no need to test if it is genuine or not. Genuine Prolific chips are
>> rare. Out of some 20+ Prolific type chip based cables that I have
>> here, I only have 2 that know are genuine.
>>
>> One came from a now out of business dealer. The description stated
>> that it contained a genuine Prolfic chip. It cost $10 more than the
>> non-genuine version that they also sold. The second came with (but was
>> purchased separately) a Wouxun KG-UV6D V2 radio that I purchased from
>> a USA dealer.
>>
>> So if you run Windows XP or above, the non-destructive test to
>> determine if the Prolific type chip in your programming cable isHey
>> genuine is pretty simple. Plug it into the USB port and wait for the
>> latest Prolific driver to install. Then try it out. then if it works
>> (not likely) it has a genuine Prolific chip. If it doesn't work (very
>> likely) it has a counterfeit chip.
>>
>> But if you already have the programming cable, it is too late to worry
>> about which type of Prolific chip is in it (genuine or counterfeit).
>> Just download, install and select the older Prolific driver (it works
>> for both).
>>
>> v2.0.2.1 Windows XP
>> v3.2.0.0 Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10
>>
>> If the idea is to avoid the hassle of dealing with counterfeit
>> Prolific type chips, then note the following.
>>
>> A genuine Baofeng (the radio manufacturer based in China) programming
>> cable is virtually guaranteed to have a counterfeit Prolific chip.
>>
>> If the listing states that the programming cable only works with older
>> versions of Windows or states that it does not work with the latest
>> versions of Windows, it is a good bet that is will have a counterfeit
>> Prolific chip. The same goes for listings where there is no mention of
>> the chip the programming cable contains.
>>
>> So the best thing to do to avoid the driver hassle is to look for a
>> cable with an FTDI type chip. Even FTDI chips can be counterfeit, but
>> even the counterfeit chips currently work with the latest available
>> device drivers.
>>
>> Although I mostly use Prolific type chips here, I do have some with
>> genuine FTDI chips. My source for the last few has been Baofeng Tech
>> (the radio dealer based in the USA).
>>
>> Jim KC9HI
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 17:56:30 GMT
From: jl_wilkerson at att.net <jl_wilkerson at att.net>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
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    Cp2102. ?Retrofit cheap cable. ?Beat FTDI.



------ Original message------From: Jock via chirp_users Date: Mon, Nov 21, 2016 10:56 AMTo: chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com;Subject:Re: [chirp_users] Baofeng 888s cable issue
The only cables I buy are from RTSYSTEMS.
They work every time.
Yes they cost more but you go cheap you buy problems .Jock Soutar KC6IIH
Sent via Samsung Galaxy S7
on AT&T 4G LTE Smartphone

On Monday, November 21, 2016 Jardy Dawson via chirp_users <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:

Jim,
I am like you, having numerous cables that have the fake chips in them. ?Once I learned what to do with them, through you and the Miklor site, it only takes about 2 minutes to roll back the driver, if I have to. ?When Windows 8 first came out, I spent 3-4 months fighting with cables not working. ?After learning what to do, I don't worry about it anymore. ?The nice thing is, is that I have cables for many different radios, but once you get the right driver installed, it works for all of them. ?I am not going to go out and spend money I don't have to, just to save me 2 minutes of work. ?I also do not have the skill set, tools, or time, to make my own cables out of earphones and some other chip.
I really do appreciate your testing the theories of why the cables are 'not compatible with Windows 10', etc. and coming up with the proper solution. ?It is just NOT THAT HARD TO DEAL WITH, when you know what to do.
Thank you.?
Jardy DawsonWA7JRD Ham Radio
Message relayed from secret Hillary Clinton server, located in the basement of her house. ?OOPS, you aren't supposed to know that!
On Nov 21, 2016, at 06:19, Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Garth Robinson
<soundtek at vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Jim,

..... so, how can one guarantee ( without dismantling the cable ) that there
is a genuine chip within the cable? I'm even suspect of the Baofeng cables.

Garth. zl1tue ?..... an still shakin'

About 4 years ago I downloaded every version of Prolific driver for
Windows I could find. I installed them one by one from the most recent
to the oldest to find out exactly which driver was the absolute latest
that would work with a counterfeit Prolific chip. The answer was
v3.3.2.105. But although this driver works great with CHIRP, it is
incompatible with most programming software written for Chinese
radios.

So my testing continued. It wasn't until I got to the Prolific
v3.2.0.0 driver that it would work with all of my programming
software. And it works with the latest Prolific chips as well.

As you can see from the attached screen capture, I have 4 Prolific
drivers installed in my Windows 7 64-bit computer. I can switch
between these driver versions at will to determine if a Prolific type
chip is genuine.

So if you have a programming cable with a Prolfic type chip, there is
no need to test if it is genuine or not. Genuine Prolific chips are
rare. Out of some 20+ Prolific type chip based cables that I have
here, I only have 2 that know are genuine.

One came from a now out of business dealer. The description stated
that it contained a genuine Prolfic chip. It cost $10 more than the
non-genuine version that they also sold. The second came with (but was
purchased separately) a Wouxun KG-UV6D V2 radio that I purchased from
a USA dealer.

So if you run Windows XP or above, the non-destructive test to
determine if the Prolific type chip in your programming cable is
genuine is pretty simple. Plug it into the USB port and wait for the
latest Prolific driver to install. Then try it out. then if it works
(not likely) it has a genuine Prolific chip. If it doesn't work (very
likely) it has a counterfeit chip.

But if you already have the programming cable, it is too late to worry
about which type of Prolific chip is in it (genuine or counterfeit).
Just download, install and select the older Prolific driver (it works
for both).

v2.0.2.1 Windows XP
v3.2.0.0 Windows Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10

If the idea is to avoid the hassle of dealing with counterfeit
Prolific type chips, then note the following.

A genuine Baofeng (the radio manufacturer based in China) programming
cable is virtually guaranteed to have a counterfeit Prolific chip.

If the listing states that the programming cable only works with older
versions of Windows or states that it does not work with the latest
versions of Windows, it is a good bet that is will have a counterfeit
Prolific chip. The same goes for listings where there is no mention of
the chip the programming cable contains.

So the best thing to do to avoid the driver hassle is to look for a
cable with an FTDI type chip. Even FTDI chips can be counterfeit, but
even the counterfeit chips currently work with the latest available
device drivers.

Although I mostly use Prolific type chips here, I do have some with
genuine FTDI chips. My source for the last few has been Baofeng Tech
(the radio dealer based in the USA).

Jim KC9HI
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:00:44 -0600
From: dursr at sasktel.net
Subject: [chirp_users] Unknown clones
To: chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com
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Assuming I have an appropriate data cable how do I get Chirp to talk to an unknown clone radio?
?
Ron


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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2016 14:42:40 -0500
From: Jim Unroe <rock.unroe at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [chirp_users] Unknown clones
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On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 1:00 PM,  <dursr at sasktel.net> wrote:
> Assuming I have an appropriate data cable how do I get Chirp to talk to an unknown clone radio?
>
> Ron

What do you mean  by "unknown clone"? Do you mean a radio this is a
variant of a similar CHIRP supported radio? Or do you mean a radio
that is not supported by CHIRP at all?

Jim KC9HI


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