[chirp_users] Settings to match Motorola PL tones

Jeffrey fongemie at gmail.com
Wed Jun 8 07:28:37 PDT 2016


Rich,

Apologies for messing up your first name.

Thanks, I need to digest what you wrote a bit later too.

Jeff


On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Rich Messeder <rich.messeder at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks, "Rich". ;-)
>
> "Direct" is called simplex.
> On my Kenwood TH-F6A, I can select "Tone" to activate a repeater that
> requires it, or I can select CTCSS (PL) to filter incoming calls according
> to a tone. But using one cancels the other. Some radio permit the use of
> both, hence the CROSS value in CHIRP.
>
> IMO. setting the ToneMode to Tone should have resulted in the UV5
> /sending/ a tone. If it were earlier TSQL, and the Motorola were NOT
> sending a tone, then the UV5 would have not opened its squelch, and you
> would not receive the call.
>
> And yes the transmission is open to everyone to hear. All that TSQL does
> is tell your radio to ignore all transmissions it receives EXCEPT for those
> that also carry the CTCSS tone. Please note that if two radios are
> transmitting on the same freq, and one uses the tone to open your squelch,
> you will hear both transmissions simultaneously.
>
> Gotta go offline for the rest of the day...sorry.
>
> ~Rich~
>
> On 2016-06-08 10:15:-0400, Jeffrey wrote:
> >Thanks Rick.
> >
> >I just tried setting Tone Mode to "Tone" with a tone of 67.0 it the UV5R
> was able to receive from the Motorola, but the Motorola could not receive
> from the UV5R.
> >
> >"Tone: A single CTCSS tone is transmitted, receive squelch is open or
> carrier-triggered. The tone used is that which is set in the Tone column.:"
> >
> >So, if I read this correctly, the Motorola radio transmission is open to
> everyone? And will filter out everything that does not transmit with the
> correct tone?Â
> >
> >Tone mode as "Tone" should work if I have the correct tone, and the radio
> is sending it correctly. Right?
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Rich Messeder <<mailto:
> rich.messeder at gmail.com>rich.messeder at gmail.com> wrote:
> >I think this is a good question. I have recently acquired 2 BaoFeng
> UV-5RTP. I have programmed them "successfully", but not tested the results.
> >
> >Here is my take on it.
> >
> >I think that CHIRP allows the user to select TSQL, indicating that the
> ToneSql value is used for repeater access. It is unfortunate that we all
> don't use the same terms. I opine that CTCSS is the same thing as PL; one
> is a generic term and the other a vendor term.
> >
> >I understand that Tone in CHIRP is used for receive. If you have Tone
> selected, then the sender must use the agreed tone to open your squelch.
> For repeaters, I am not sure that all repeaters use tone (PL, CTCSS) on
> transmit, as they do on receive. A repeater first senses the carrier on the
> inbound freq, and then look for the PL tone.
> >
> >My impression is that many radios do not (can not) use PL codes /from/ a
> repeater that are different from the sending PL tone.
> >
> >Now to 2 radios.
> >The sending unit must send the same tone that the receiving unit is
> filtering on. So if you are both working simplex, and you both have tone
> squelch enabled and are using the same PL|CTCSS tones, it should work. I
> might try that later today or tomorrow if I have the time.
> >
> >From
> ><http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/MemoryEditorColumns>
> http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/MemoryEditorColumns
> >Tone
> >This sets the CTCSS tone to be transmitted if the Tone Mode is set to
> Tone. In Cross mode, it has additional meanings (see description of Cross
> Mode for more details).
> >
> >ToneSql
> >This sets the CTCSS tone to be transmitted and used for receiver squelch
> if the Tone Mode is set to TSQL. In Cross mode it has additional meanings
> (see description of Cross Mode for more details).
> >
> >I too have used TSQL for many entries, and now wonder if I should be
> using Tone, because I want to trigger the repeater with a PL tone, but then
> want the reply no matter what.
> >
> >~R~ NE1EE
> >Short email? No html? Here's why: <http://emailcharter.org/>
> http://emailcharter.org/
> >
> >On 2016-06-08 09:26:-0400, Jeffrey wrote:
> >>Hey everyone,
> >>
> >>I'm pretty new to radios in general, and more so programming them, but
> I'll do my best to get the terminology right.
> >>
> >>I'm trying to use CHIRP to program a UV-5R so that it can communicate
> with a Motorola radio on a certain frequency.ÂÂ  The Motorola is set to use
> 151.9400 with a PL tone of 67.0 for both send and receive.
> >>
> >>PL is the same as CTCSS correct?
> >>
> >>On the UV-5R, I've got Tone Mode set as TSQL and ToneSql set to 67.0 -
> and it does not work? The two radios are not communicating.ÂÂ  Am I missing
> something? Something special about Motorola PL tones? Should be a standard
> right?
> >>
> >>Thanks for any advice.
> >>
> >>Jeff
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