[chirp_users] Chirp won't read CSV files correctly

Jardy Dawson jardy72 at yahoo.com
Sun Feb 28 18:34:39 PST 2016


If the other info you want to use is on radios supported by CHIRP, just read those radios and save in CHIRP. Then read the radio you want to program, save the info just in case, then copy and paste from the first radio to the second.  Very easy to do.  Don't use Excel anymore than you absolutely need to.  Do your editing within CHIRP.

Jardy Dawson
WA7JRD Ham Radio

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On Feb 28, 2016, at 18:14, Chris Nordstrom <cfnordstrom at gmail.com> wrote:

Okay -- here's the thing -- to be useful, computers and software should 
always make things easier for us humans, not the other way around.  I've 
been doing this for a long time with various programming applications 
(such as RT Systems or FTBasicMMO and others) to program radios and I 
have ALWAYS been able to use Excel CSV files and NEVER had as much 
trouble with any software as I've had with Chirp--the CSV files just 
import and apparently the programming software ignores what it doesn't 
like.

Now I am experimenting with Chirp because I did not want to put out 
another $45 bucks to RT Systems,  that's it -- I'm a cheapskate.  
Granted, Chirp is WAY more friendly and useful than the standard Wouxun 
programming software.

I already have numerous CSV files with all the repeater data that I need 
for various applications, some local, some in cities where I travel and 
I wanted to use this, not start from scratch entering data one line at a 
time into another programming tool.  It's just easier to keep everything 
in one format -- essentially a database -- that I can carve up and use 
any way I want.

So, it's been a steep learning curve for me, and I did not mean to 
ruffle so many feathers, but I think I'm up to speed now and Chirp is 
now another tool in the toolbox...so to speak.

Regards, Chris W7CFN



> On 2/27/2016 9:32 PM, Tom Hayward wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Chris Nordstrom <cfnordstrom at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Right, well as I've said, when you create generic CSV file from Chirp and go
>> look at it, it still contains all the empty fields and the extra commas at
>> the end of the row.  So....
> The "extra" commas are a critical, required part of the Chirp CSV format.
> 
> I'm having a hard time understanding why you need Excel in the first
> place. It sounds like you are a relatively new user of Chirp, yet
> using third party software to edit Chirp files is arguably one of the
> most advanced things you can do with Chirp. As you've found, it
> requires understanding the specific details of the file formats and
> any errors that might be introduced by specific third party editors. A
> lot of effort has been put into the built-in Chirp editor. It supports
> copy, paste, inserting rows, removing rows, populating safe default
> values, automatic repeater offsets for various band plans around the
> world, bulk row editing (i.e., setting power level to high on 20
> channels at once). What is missing from Chirp that drove you to an
> external editor? I'm not implying there are no valid uses of external
> editors--indeed, this is one of the benefits of using CSV
> encoding--but most of the time it just makes things more difficult.
> 
> Tom KD7LXL
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