[chirp_users] chirp_users Digest, Vol 67, Issue 21

Jim Unroe rock.unroe at gmail.com
Mon Jul 28 16:25:38 PDT 2014


Mike,

Click "View" in the menu bar. Then enable "Hide Unused Fields".

Now unused fields will be blank. You won't need "no tone" because there
will be no tone value listed (it will be blank).

CHIRP was recently updated so that new installations will have "Hide Unused
Fields" enabled by default.

Jim KC9HI


On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:58 PM, Mike Morrow <mikeymail at iliketheinternet.com
> wrote:

> This is something I was thinking of opening a problem ticket on.  It is
> confusing, obviously, to many to have the default and "no tone" setting
> to be a tone.  In this case 88.5.  We use 88.5 on some repeaters locally
> and having the "no setting" setting the same as "in use setting" both be
> 88.5 is confusing for a quick look at the grid.  I got confused, myself,
> when going through the grid and had to go back to he repeater book to
> figure out if these were really in use or not.  One used two different
> tones and one was 88.5 and, once again, I had to go back and double
> check and make sure if this was in use or "no tone".
>
> I would also like to see a NONE setting in the Tone columns for a more
> positive indication that there is no tone used here.
>
> Another confusion is when you query the Repeater Guide, if no tone is in
> use, it comes back 88.5 and you have to then investigate further to see
> if this is real or "no tone" usage of 88.5.
>
> All around confusing and since software is there to help us, it should
> not impede progress by adding useless confusion when it is so easy to do
> it "right" and show NONE when NONE is the correct setting rather than
> duplicating a valid setting.
>
> Even the stupid Wouxun software, for all its faults, does this
> properly.  Seems like better software (CHIRP) could do at least that
> good.  Right?
>
> I have been a programmer for most of my life.  If I set a real entry as
> the setting for NONE, I would have been fired!
>
> Mike/W6XXX
>
> On 7/23/2014 12:00 PM, chirp_users-request at intrepid.danplanet.com wrote:
> > An entry in the ToneSql field is not required.
> > If the Tone Mode selection is (none), the Tone and ToneSql fields are
> ignored.
> > The 88.5 is a filler default.
>
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