[chirp_users] Straightening out mixed terminology

Milton Hywatt mhywattt at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 8 14:37:23 PDT 2014

Well once again these messages are arriving her out of order but 
my comment is just give it some time Pete. www.miklor.com isn't
a Chirp specific site but will teach you some things about your new radio. 
After awhile it will all start to fall into place and make more sense. So
hang around and be patient. The Baofeng has been around for a good 
bit of time and you will be familiar enough soon to offer support rather than
ask for it.   

 From: Pete Miller <scmiller40 at gmail.com>
To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2014 2:57 PM
Subject: [chirp_users] Straightening out mixed terminology


Acknowledging up front that I'm a rookie, so give me all the guidance you
think I need. Although I'm sorely tempted to curse the darkness, the reason 
for this mail is to try to light a candle, in case anyone else has some of the 
same questions.

The challenge is differences in the terminology of repeater directories, CHIRP,
and my new, first radio, a BaoFeng UV-5RE Plus. I've looked for answers
in the CHIRP FAQ as well as some web searching. If you're not the right ones
to deal with some or all of these questions, please share your suggestions
about other sources.

In advance, thanks.

/kc1bkh -- Pete


Below are examples of a repeater directory table, a csv-formatted table for
BaoFeng UV-5RE  Plus, and the cloned CHIRP report for the UV-5RE Plus

The overall question: 
How does the repeater directory terminology fit CHIRP's and the BaoFeng columns?

( This link was somewhat helpful, btw > http://kc5olo.org/downloads/repeater1.pdf . )

Repeater directory columns

	* Freq-- transmit frequency of repeater? yes, according to KC5OLO 

	* OFS-- For example, standard offset for 2m is -600 kHz
What gets entered where in the BaoFeng CSV and cloned columns? 
Maybe only the "-" or "+" or "split" gets entered? Then the offset is just calculated for each band?
	* Mode
Same as BF-UV5 "Tone Mode", or maybe BF's "Mode" (which is usually FM for 2m band, right?) ?
What is "Tone Mode"?
	* Code In and Code Out--
Here are four examples from the repeater directory
146.445 +1M CT Bridgeport WA1RJI  77.0/
156.7 77.0*  Fairfield     224.680 (Rocky Hill, CT) 2012/09/09 
146.475 +1M CT Norwalk W1NLK  100.0 100.0  Fairfield      2012/09/12 
146.625 -  CT Fairfield WB1CQO  100.0   Fairfield        
146.655 -  CT Stamford W1EE  100.0   Fairfield   158564
WB1GRB-R  2013/01/28 
+1M is special offset?
146.445 : What does 77.0 / 156.7 for Code In mean?
146.445 : What does the red typestyle for Code Out mean? 
>>* means 'Gated PL' but I don't know what that means, yet.
What are the units of the 77.0, 100.0, and 156.7 numbers? mHz?
	* IRLP - The Internet Radio Linking Project
I'm not there yet
	* Echo - Refers to EchoLink® ?
I'm not there yet

BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns

- cloned report downloaded from radio

>How do these terms map to the ones in the csv-format below?
csv                  cloned
Tone Mode.......?
DTCS Code......Dtcs Code
DTCS Rx Code ?
DTCS Pol.........Dtcs Polarity
Power...............? hi or lo, but I haven't found that detail, so far

BaoFeng UV-5RE-Plus memory columns 
- csv format

Location  |Name |Frequency |Duplex |Offset |Tone| rToneFreq |cToneFreq| DtcsCode| DtcsPolarity |Mode| TStep |Skip |Comment URCALL RPT1CALL RPT2CALL   
What are 
>Why aren't the csv and cloned column headers and content the same?
>I do get that the column headers are supposed to guide the process of uploading to the radio,
>so the order of columns can be different. But why not make them the same, anyhow?
>May be a BaoFeng problem: When I try to manually enter info directly into the clone report, I 
>can enter Name and Frequency, but clicking on other columns just makes the entire row (such 
>as, the row for memory location 22) go away; seems to erase the row. I haven't figured out how 
>to recover it, but since I haven't uploaded anything, I can of course download a new image.
>Suggestions about how to make direct entry into the downloaded, "cloned" report?

Thanks. I've done my best to provide enough context, but if you want any more info,
just ask.
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