[chirp_users] hello from a new list member

Andrew Errington erringtona at gmail.com
Wed Jul 3 21:31:09 PDT 2013


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73,

Andrew

On 4 July 2013 13:28, Marshall <mlb7705 at gmail.com> wrote:
> How fo I get my email unsubscribed?  Please take me off the list.  Thanks
> Marshall Bearor N5NQU
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>
> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea at arrl.net>
> Date: 07/03/2013 11:22 PM (GMT-06:00)
> To: Discussion of CHIRP <chirp_users at intrepid.danplanet.com>
> Subject: Re: [chirp_users] hello from a new list member
>
>
> By using Vinux, CHIRP is accessible using ORCA screen reader.  ORCA has the
> gtk accessibility module installed in Vinux.
>
> CHIRP is not accessible in Windows or Mac, but it is accessible in Linux if
> the gtk api is installed as it is in Vinux.
>
> There are a few bugs with Vinux 4.0 when run from CD, but these do not
> affect usb or hard drive install.
>
> Tony Sales likes Vinux 4.0.
>
> 73
>
> David  N1EA
>
> On Jul 4, 2013 12:12 AM, "eric oyen" <eric.oyen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That still doesn't help with the overall problem (or perhaps it might).
>> The issue I have right now is that I would like to use chirp and can't. Its
>> not the fault of either NVDA (screen reader for windows) or Voiceover (OS X
>> screen reader). It appears to be a problem with the selected interface. I
>> just tried chirp for win32 and all I got was a blank dialog and no access to
>> any drop down menus (especially those that should work with the alt key in
>> windows). OS X was a little better as I was able to at least access the main
>> menus but couldn't select anything in the program itself.
>>
>> This makes chirp a not very useful tool for me (or the thousands of other
>> blind hams in the US).
>>
>> what I would like to do is be able to program any supported radio without
>> visual assistance from anyone else. Since I cannot currently do that, it
>> makes me a bit less useful as a HAM on public service events. This also
>> means that I am forced to wait until I can find a volunteer to help me with
>> some tasks involving my radios. This I don't like at all.
>>
>> anyway, enough of my rant. I do issue this challenge however. I challenge
>> the Author to improve his product. make it accessible for the blind (that is
>> easy to do from a certain point of view). It might be a lot harder for
>> windows than for OS X.
>>
>> I will give Vinux a try (again). ever since their primary developer left,
>> it hasn't quite been the same (and some things got a bit more broken).
>>
>> -eric
>> n7zzt
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:52 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
>>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Download Vinux which is Linux for the Visually impaired from
>> www.vinuxproject.org
>>
>> It will boot from DVD or installed on USB stick or  installed alongside
>> windows on hard drive.
>>
>> I use it all the time, or about 90% of the time, Windows about 10%.
>>
>> Linux does everything and much easier than Windows.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> David N1EA
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2013 11:41 AM, "Dan Smith" <dsmith at danplanet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > the first one is solvable by adding some accessibility features
>>> > (python has some and apple published the API for voiceover). I am not
>>> > a coder, so I can't tell how difficult this will be.
>>>
>>> The detail you're probably not aware of is that CHIRP uses a
>>> cross-platform UI toolkit called GTK. This makes it invisible to screen
>>> readers on both Windows and MacOS, which only support reading for their
>>> native widgets. It works just fine on Linux, of course, but that
>>> doesn't help you.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, there is not much we can do for you here. It's not
>>> feasible to have a volunteer-run application project that supports all
>>> three platforms' UI toolkits natively, and especially one that moves at
>>> the speed that CHIRP does.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dan Smith
>>> www.danplanet.com
>>> KK7DS
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