[chirp_users] hello from a new list member

eric oyen eric.oyen at gmail.com
Wed Jul 3 21:11:13 PDT 2013


That still doesn't help with the overall problem (or perhaps it might). The issue I have right now is that I would like to use chirp and can't. Its not the fault of either NVDA (screen reader for windows) or Voiceover (OS X screen reader). It appears to be a problem with the selected interface. I just tried chirp for win32 and all I got was a blank dialog and no access to any drop down menus (especially those that should work with the alt key in windows). OS X was a little better as I was able to at least access the main menus but couldn't select anything in the program itself.

This makes chirp a not very useful tool for me (or the thousands of other blind hams in the US). 

what I would like to do is be able to program any supported radio without visual assistance from anyone else. Since I cannot currently do that, it makes me a bit less useful as a HAM on public service events. This also means that I am forced to wait until I can find a volunteer to help me with some tasks involving my radios. This I don't like at all. 

anyway, enough of my rant. I do issue this challenge however. I challenge the Author to improve his product. make it accessible for the blind (that is easy to do from a certain point of view). It might be a lot harder for windows than for OS X. 

I will give Vinux a try (again). ever since their primary developer left, it hasn't quite been the same (and some things got a bit more broken).

-eric
n7zzt

On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:52 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:

> Eric,
> 
> Download Vinux which is Linux for the Visually impaired from www.vinuxproject.org
> 
> It will boot from DVD or installed on USB stick or  installed alongside windows on hard drive.
> 
> I use it all the time, or about 90% of the time, Windows about 10%.
> 
> Linux does everything and much easier than Windows.
> 
> 73
> 
> David N1EA
> 
> On Jul 3, 2013 11:41 AM, "Dan Smith" <dsmith at danplanet.com> wrote:
> > the first one is solvable by adding some accessibility features
> > (python has some and apple published the API for voiceover). I am not
> > a coder, so I can't tell how difficult this will be.
> 
> The detail you're probably not aware of is that CHIRP uses a
> cross-platform UI toolkit called GTK. This makes it invisible to screen
> readers on both Windows and MacOS, which only support reading for their
> native widgets. It works just fine on Linux, of course, but that
> doesn't help you.
> 
> Unfortunately, there is not much we can do for you here. It's not
> feasible to have a volunteer-run application project that supports all
> three platforms' UI toolkits natively, and especially one that moves at
> the speed that CHIRP does.
> 
> --
> Dan Smith
> www.danplanet.com
> KK7DS
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