[chirp_users] Thoughts on TH-F6A support and looking for D710 support

David Ranch chirp at trinnet.net
Sat Feb 5 12:00:15 PST 2011

Hello Dan,

> Do you mean the column is missing or the values are blank?  If the 
> column is missing, add it in the View menu.  However, you should be 
> seeing them in the stderr output, as you mentioned.
the column is blank as is the output of STDERR.  Please see my original 
post for an example of what's seen in the STDERR output.

>> Any thoughts on why the cancel doesn't work on the Yaesu radios? Is my
>> Python environment missing something?
> Oh, right, I meant to mention that.  Apparently you're missing the 
> 'ctypes' module.  What Python and OS version are you running?
Also mentioned in the first email: Centos 5.5.  I have two versions of 
Python installed but, by default, it will run the 2.4.3 version which is 
the Centos stock version.

If I try to use the 2.5 version, it seems like many of my other modules 
are no longer found.  I've seen this before but I don't know how to 
populate one version of Python's modules into a different version of Python:
$ /usr/bin/python2.5 chirpw
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "chirpw", line 24, in <module>
    import gtk
ImportError: No module named gtk

> The Kenwood radios are really a lot easier to do than the other types, 
> so I wouldn't be opposed to starting down that road on some of those. 
> The only problem is that I have a D700 in my car, but that's my only 
> one, so it's not very convenient for development.
Yeah.. I can understand that and they aren't all that cheap either.  I 
would assume they are fairly similar but maybe that's a bad assumption.

>> Have you chatted with the author of the VX commander software? It seems
>> like he's been busy for a long time and he might be willing to send you
>> his source code for that alpha version of the tool.
> I haven't, but other people have reportedly solicited some input from 
> him and have not been very pleased with the results.
Hmmmm... maybe that's when he still had time for things.. maybe things 
have changed?  I can try if you'd like.

> Your call.  I'd be glad to do the work and get it back to you if you 
> want to send it.  I'm able to reverse engineer most radios in about 48 
> hours (wall clock time) depending on what else I have going on.
Well, like I mentioned, the VX5 is the bottom of my list so I rather you 
spend your time on the D710 first and then, if you're willing, I can 
ship it up.

> Well, I could.  It used to be that the live radios were treated a little 
> differently in the UI than the clone types, and it generated confusion 
> for a lot of people.  Moving to a more unified approach has made it a 
> lot easier to use.  Maybe a "FYI this is live" pop-up with a "don't show 
> me this again" checkbox would be appropriate.
That would help though I think most people won't understand what a 
"live" radio means.  Most programs that people have used like Kenwood's 
radios, VX commander, etc. are batch download/upload tools.  I prefer 
this live approach though!

> Feel free to document the above in a tracker item to (a) remind me and 
> (b) preserve it for when we get there.  You can do that here:
>    http://trac.chirp.danplanet.com
Will do!

>On second thought, let me use the software to emulate the radio, and 
>then I'll let you test it with the real radio to make sure it works. 
>The yaesus are extremely sensitive to timing (compared to the Icom and 
>Kenwood radios), so it's not uncommon for me to need to do some tweaking 
>after the protocol is in place.
>So, stay tuned for some beta code for the VX5 and lets see how it goes, 

Did you notice in my original email that there was some data output when 
I selected the VX3 mode?  Does that help at all?

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