<p dir="ltr">Hi Jens,</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thanks for the analysis. </p>
<p dir="ltr">You've basically outlined what I was thinking of doing. I figured that I would need generate the DTMF/modem tones via the sound card and tx it through a different radio.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I was hoping that if someone had 2 of them it would make it easier to reverse engineer any real time comms that might be going on.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I picked up one of these now and it's a real pain to program so I'm going to start trying to figure out how the clone works.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Angus</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 1, 2016 1:34 PM, af5mi@yahoo.com wrote:<br type='attribution'><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:'lucida console' , sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div>A quick scan of the manual seems to indicate its a "wireless-only" clone.</div><div><br /></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://www.yaesu.com/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=4483&FileCatID=150&FileName=FTM-10R.pdf&FileContentType=application%2Fpdf">https://www.yaesu.com/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=4483&FileCatID=150&FileName=FTM-10R.pdf&FileContentType=application%2Fpdf</a><br /></div><div dir="ltr"><br />This suggests it is some sort of sequence of tones sent OTA. Older Kenwood HT's, e.g. TH-79A did something similar using sequence of DTMF tones transmitted to other radio.</div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">Because this is not serial- or file-based communication, Chirp currently doesnt have any support for it.</div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">Opinion and conjecture follow...</div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">I'm guessing it would be theoretically possible to write an OTA chirp driver, but it would likely have to accomplish two things:</div><div dir="ltr">1. generate the actual (DTMF) tones for cloning to radio (either outputting to sound-card, or a wav file, etc which could be replayed via another radio), and</div><div dir="ltr">2. decode (DTMF) tones received from master radio.</div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">This assumes that there is no real-time ack/verification. (Otherwise this would require some real-time radio interaction with a surrogate radio coupled to pc/chirp in order to rx/tx audio OTA to the clone target.)</div><div dir="ltr"><br /></div><div dir="ltr">You would likely have to find some python modules which support this tone generation/decoding, or lash up something low-level, using python audio stream modules.</div><div><br /></div><div>-Jens</div><div><br /></div><div style="display:block" class="elided-text"> <div style="font-family:'lucida console' , sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:'helveticaneue' , 'helvetica neue' , 'helvetica' , 'arial' , 'lucida grande' , sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> </font><hr size="1" /> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Angus Ainslie via chirp_devel <chirp_devel@intrepid.danplanet.com><br /> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> chirp_devel@intrepid.danplanet.com <br /> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, March 30, 2016 9:22 PM<br /> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> [chirp_devel] Yaesu FTM-10R<br /> </div> <div><br /><div><div dir="ltr">Hi All</div>
<div dir="ltr">There isn't a programming cable for this radio but it can clone channels to other FTM-10R radios.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Has anyone tried to reverse engineer this cloning ? </div>
<div dir="ltr">Is it done via RF or Bluetooth ?</div>
<div dir="ltr">Does anyone have 2 of these radios and the equipment to capture the cloning ?</div>
<div dir="ltr">Thanks<br />
Angus</div>
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