[chirp_devel] Updated UI? Port to WxPython?

[Aaron Traas]

Tom M,

Other than web stuff (I'm primarily a web developer) I haven't done
anything involved with screen readers, but I'm more than willing to learn.
It does appear that WxWidgets has accessibility features that should
support screen readers. After I get my build environment set up, I can play
around with it.

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On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Tom Masterson <kd7cyu at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am blind and use chirp on linux.  It works but there are still
> accessibility issues.  If you wish to play with as Reno readers orca is
> free nn linux, McDaniel is free on windows, and voiceover comes installed
> on mac.
>
> Tom
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 27, 2016, at 15:25, Aaron Traas via chirp_devel <
> chirp_devel at intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
>
> On macOS, you do still have to do a Pip/EasyInstall for the WxPython
> package, but that's the same for packages like PythonXML and such. Your
> installer or .app bundle or whatever could take care of that dependency.
> I'm a bit of a Python novice -- I've used it for task automation and batch
> processing and the like, but haven't written graphical stuff in it before,
> but it seems pretty easy.
>
> As far as screen readers go, it appears to have accessibility on all
> platforms. Other than web stuff, I've never played around with screen
> readers. I can tinker with it. I'd be willing to bet it has better support
> on Windows/Mac than GTK, but I don't know this from experience.
>
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>
>
> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 6:07 PM, Tom Hayward <tom at tomh.us> wrote:
>
>> The Chirp UI has been mature for many years and very little work goes
>> into it now. That means you probably would not disrupt anybody with a
>> UI overhaul. Moreover, I don't believe any of the active Chirp
>> developers have much experience or interest in UI development, so if
>> you want to "own" this that would be a great complement to the team.
>>
>> It would be nice to be able to run Chirp on macOS without first
>> installing the KK7DS Python/PyGTK runtime. It's my understanding that
>> WxPython is standard on macOS. Is this correct? No external
>> dependencies?
>>
>> One frequent request is better screen reader support. GTK screen
>> reader support is best on Linux, so we usually refer blind hams there.
>> Is WxPython better in this regard due to use of native widgets?
>>
>> Tom KD7LXL
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Aaron Traas via chirp_devel
>> <chirp_devel at intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
>> > I'm a new user to CHIRP and a newly minted Ham (KD2MMN) who just used
>> this
>> > fantastic software to program my new Baofeng UV-5R variant. I'm also a
>> > software developer with a lot of experience writing front-end code.
>> >
>> > I've noticed the Mac version of CHIRP has a dated UI and very non-native
>> > feel, much like other GTK apps on the Mac.
>> >
>> > If the powers that be are open to the idea, I could reimplement the
>> chirp.ui
>> > package in WxPython, which is much nicer on macOS and Windows than GTK,
>> as
>> > it's an abstraction layer for the native UI components for all
>> platforms,
>> > and will render as GTK on Linux.
>> >
>> > If this is welcome, I'll start tinkering around with the port. If you're
>> > unlikely to wish to move to a different UI toolkit, I could try to find
>> > other ways to be useful.
>> >
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>> >
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